The Fascist nationalistic racist create fantasy story's to serve their own agenda . They talk about keeping Australia for white Australia and really are a threat to social cohesion in building a true Australia . They based their ideology on illusion. I do not wish to debate with . redneck moron's . How can you when their assumption of the world are not based on fact and reality but on illusion made up to serve their own scumbag Agenda. Like a said they are nothing but a pack of moronic scumbags. I am waiting for the day when I can litigate against these scumbags if the legislation requirements to do so is there . Neither will I tolerate a Racist in my workplace . He will be singled out and shown the door. I have become just as intolerant because they have the same agenda.

It's interesting that each side of the debate thinks that the other side "really are a threat to social cohesion in building a true Australia".
My view is that social cohesion is underpinned by shared values.
It seems intuitively obvious that the greater the degree of multiculturalism, the greater the diversity of values.
Are there universal core values, which all humans share, that transcend the diversity of values which are multicultural specific?
Are there a set of "Golden Rules" we can all agree upon?
I believe not.
For example, can the adherents of a supremacist socio-politico-religio ideology such as Islam ever accept the Australian concept of secular government, based on the separation of church and state.
The formal recognition of Sharia Law as a parallel legal system in the UK casts grave doubts that Muslims in Australia will accept the validity of the Australia legal system in settling domestic disputes, for example.
What are the long-term implications for Australian Muslim women?
What of the fundamental Golden Rule, which we express as "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?
Western analysts of the Koran and Islamic law point out that Islam has a similar 'Golden Rule" but that it applies only to Muslims and has no bearing on Muslims relations with infidels (ie non-believers).
http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/the-pseudo-golden-rule-or-do-unto-which-others/
Can anybody advise me on the basis of what shared values would Islamic immigration into Australia contribute to social cohesion?
Or are "multiculturalism" and "diversity" enough, in and of themselves.

Jay of Melbourne etc.,

White genocide ? Not really - nobody is forcing you to marry outside your exclusive group, or to enrich the genetic diversity, good looks or intelligence of your descendants. But you'll never know what you're missing. Of course, your kids might have more sense.

Joe

Proxy since we're in the same ethnic group and I, David and a few others clearly have a low opinion of you and Jay what does that tell you about cohesion? Being of the same race doesn't make us cohesive.

And there are plenty of great Muslim Australians.

Joe please don't encourage Jay to have kids. :-)

Jiplug<China doesn't need Australian aid and neither does Japan>

And neither did I say they did. You say the Chinese don’t need us, well how come they were coming in here at the rate of 70,000 a year until it was stopped not that many years ago. Don’t forget that the Chinese need our territorial resources so it’s a two way street.

Japan must have thought they needed us or at least our whole country when they attacked Australia and tried to conquer us in World War 2. Also in the years leading up to world war 2 they invaded China and killed 15millions Chinese not to mention the rape of Manchuria. Let's not forget that little fact about the Japanese before you accuse white people of racism.

<white people didn’t invent the media.>

I’ll rephrase that then for the more slow of understanding. I mean the electronic media, isn’t that what the main beef is about, that there are not enough different ethnic people on Television in Australia.

Somebody mentioned the Murdoch Press. Mr. Murdoch is an old man married to a very young Chinese woman with whom he has children. So when he dies one of the main newspapers in the white world will pass to the hands of a Chinese and part Chinese dynasty.

What has Japan's WWII record got to do with anything? Germany (a white nation?!) was also raping and murdering millions of people at the same time.

White people didn't invent the electronic media. Do you think that all those other countries, Japan, Korea, China, India don't have their own electronic medias and haven't had them for a long time?

When you refer to the slow of understanding you must be referring to yourself. If I recall correctly on several occasions in previous threads other forum users have had to give you a lesson in very basic history. So I wouldn't be snide if I was you.

If China wasn't buying resources from us they could buy them from somewhere else. 70,000 Chinese migrants to Australia out of 1.1 billion isn't a very big percentage. So you can't use that to suggest that China needs us - plus you are conflating an individual's desire to migrate with a nation's collective will. Do you understand that people of other races are individuals as well?