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Have a nice world war, folks : Comments

By John Pilger, published 31/3/2010

On both sides of the Atlantic, serious dissent exposing illegal war has become a serious crime.

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Forkes and Arjay
You are both well informed.
Firstly Forkes...the lobbyist6s will be working even harder through graft and corruption to ensure that the US Senate and the Congress do their bidding. Here as well. There is an active group out of Melbourne that have already had Julia Gillard to an "Education Conference" in Israel, Abbott saying last weekend that Rudd should go 'softly,softly' on Israelis caught with their hands in the passport till.This is the way they work. They are devious and find the weak politicians to corrupt. Believe me when I say there are plenty. (Hope you both noticed Malcolm Fraser telling Rudd to prosecute the offenders and getting castigated by the Jewish lobby, Melbourne again who called him a Jew hater, or words to that effect. Makes it a change from anti-Semetic, a phrase they have dined out on for 65 years). They have marketed that phrase for a long time. However, as we have sais, people are better informed now.
If you have a strong stomach, youTube has some coverage of the 2009 AIPAC Conference in the US. The fawning sycophantic politicians at that event have long since sold their souls and their votes. It's nauseating.
Abbott would be a compliant target. Just shaking hands with Greg Sheridan would be enough. Anything Murdoch touches is immediately suspect. Just look at his journalists.
As for the military, Arjay, they are associated with a very active website, veteranstoday.com and have some wonderful writers including Jeff Gates, the writer of 'Criminal State'. But the veterans are lobbying strongly as well as you have said, being tired of being the group that carries the burden and still a group in the US that the Zionists cannot penetrate. A lot more informed these days and are fast becoming aware of the way they are used.
Sadly here in Australia we have so few decent and strong politicians that they are easy marks for the schemes the Israelis use, per medium of smart suited business people, with their dual passports, coming and going as they please.
Keep writing
Posted by rexw, Friday, 2 April 2010 11:06:03 AM
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The American Israel Public Affairs Committee marshaled all of its congressional beneficiaries of Israel lobby campaign contributions. AIPAC demands [pdf] the administration stop publicly confronting Israel, take the dispute behind closed doors and get back to the AIPAC agenda against Iran [pdf]. But Obama long ago stated backroom deals with the Israel lobby were off the table, because such deals have a track record — like illegal settlements — of derailing efforts toward peace in the region.
For those interested, this is from a news broadcast today and probably requires no emlargement. An indication of the mood changes in train. You see how AIPAC "demands" support the administration. Also the "AIPAC" agenda against Iran". Very clear wwho has controlled foreign policy over in the US, fast coming to an end, hopefully.
The sad thing is that regardlerss of the sometime arrogant commends from Iran, that country is the key to a new understanding with the Arab world. They are well educated, very western in interests and education and with a very active and progressive youthful population. However, nothing in that description suits the Israelis, hence using all their evil influence on the weak politicians in the US and all other countries, currently using their influences here in Australia.
Look forward to seeing other writings on your thoughts
Read Aletho News
Posted by rexw, Saturday, 3 April 2010 8:07:16 AM
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rexw, We do not know how big a shift in the US mood toward Israel has taken.I'm part of the 911 truth movement and Sabrovsky's claims that Israel did it without factual evidence is a bit alarming.It was not just the influences from Israel who have caused 911 and these subsequent wars and economic collapse.There is a lot of circumstancial evidence but no proof.

Previous to these developments ,I thought that the military had to be complicit to some degree.While it is heartening to learn that the military do have ethics and integrity,we do not need to entertain some of the gung ho ideas of wiping Israel from the planet as a solution.All they will do is kill innocent people.The few perpetrators will be hiding elsewhere and money will buy their freedom.

Perhaps Sabrovsky is playing mind games and just stirring he pot,but this could just make Israel do stupid things if his claims are 100%true.Israel is said to have well over 100 nukes and the means to deliver them.How can Sabrovsky say that they are a walk over? We also do not know the extent of the military awareness or their support.Admiral Mike Mullen,Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was appointed by Rahm Emanuel and he would choose a weak leader that he could control you would think.

I just hope that sanity prevails becuase the rise in awareness is shifting the balance of power.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 3 April 2010 9:11:24 AM
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As it was reported last week that “AIPAC has persuaded more than three-quarters of the members of the U.S. House of Representatives to sign a letter calling for an end to public criticism of Israel and urging the US to ‘reinforce’ its relationship with the Jewish state (UK Guardian),” it is worth noting one fact of American citizenship: American servicemen and women, all federal employees, and elected representatives who swear to defend the U.S. Constitution do not affirm dual allegiance to Israel or any other country.
But the politicians will do anything else like sell their vote just to keep their seat. Nauseating.

Three quarters? Hard to believe isn't it?
Posted by rexw, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 10:44:33 AM
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Rexw,this is where Russia and China can come to the table and curb Israel's excesses.Israel with the power of Corporate backing has bitten off more than it can chew.The US Congress has been totally corrupted by the power of Fractional Reserve Money.

While there is nothing special about Russia or China in terms of democracy,they could curtail the excesses of Western Economies in the throes of self destruction.

The war will not be nice.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 8:58:31 PM
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