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Atheistic and Christian faiths - a contest of delusions? : Comments

By Rowan Forster, published 15/3/2010

It's legitimate to ask what and where are the atheistic equivalents of Christian welfare agencies.

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Of the estimated 2500 Gods and religions invented by mankind, Rowan Forster and his fellow cult members are atheist to 2499 of them, the rest of us are simply atheist to all 2500!
Posted by HFR, Monday, 15 March 2010 7:33:02 PM
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Wow. "Runner", you have motivated me enough to register for this forum. You are a creationist. That just invalidates anything and everything you have to say. Your capacity for reasoned thinking is non-existent. Even the pope accepts evolution. Geez, one un-named professor disputes evolution. What about the 99.9% of other scientists who do accept it? Please give us a source for this "professor" so that we can see how the peer-reviewing of his work went.
Posted by Duy, Monday, 15 March 2010 9:06:27 PM
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Yeah, runner, as if you would know.

We've been through this before, haven't we?

Come on, which professor? Said it where? Another one someone else read for you perhaps?

Religionists who *depend* on the shonkiest of not-even-trying pseudo science are so much more to be believed? I think not. You know *all about* blind faith. Got nothing else though.

You have no idea what "god" laughs at. You don't even know what the reasonably educated find funny in that regard, let alone a supposedly supreme mythical being.

Come on runner, cough it up, lets see what else you haven't read for yourself....

Rusty
Posted by Rusty Catheter, Monday, 15 March 2010 9:50:29 PM
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To call atheism a religion is like calling baldness a hair colour.

Science has explained away much of what was one believed to be miraculous but a basic fear of death will make people believe almost anything - some more than others.
Posted by wobbles, Monday, 15 March 2010 9:52:11 PM
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duy: [You are a creationist. That just invalidates anything and everything you have to say.]

Someone believes one thing that you obviously consider to be terribly stupid, so therefore everything they say about everything else must also be incredibly stupid?

You just registered for this forum. I hope the level of logic employed in your posts increases substantially from your initial effort...

HFR: [Of the estimated 2500 Gods and religions invented by mankind, Rowan Forster and his fellow cult members are atheist to 2499 of them, the rest of us are simply atheist to all 2500!]

This is a common atheist misunderstanding, and it suggests a lack of thoughtful reflection amongst those who make it.

Things are never as black and white as this makes out. Technically speaking, Christianity actually holds a huge part of Judaism to be true. To a Christian Judaism is the beginning of our faith. Judaism's number one holy scripture is entirely true, to a Christian. We may interpret differently but nonetheless we hold to some of the same core beliefs and we hold the Old Testament to be divine revelation, as do they.

Christianity also holds Islam to be partially true, along with elements of almost every other religion.

It is actually atheists that are the odd ones out, because they hold that there's nothing spiritual or transcendant (Note: "Atheism" itself doesn't make a commitment to this belief, however 99.9% of self proclaimed atheists are naturalists, hence they are committed to this belief).

Shadow minister: Admittedly there have been somewhat persuasive attempts to explain why some religious faithful may hold to their views. But, as you point out- this can go the other way too. For example, religion makes someone believe they're accountable, whereas if you're a naturalist your behaviour is held by no specific code other than whatever feels good to you.

This can't account for the beliefs of all atheists, nor can it account for the beliefs of all the religious people in the world, especially those intelligent philosophers on either side. Hence, you haven't addressed my dichotomy and so I maintain it.
Posted by Trav, Monday, 15 March 2010 9:52:18 PM
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Duy

You seem very naive.If you are to lazy to see the many scientific breakthroughs made by scientist believing in the Genesis account don't ask me to do your work. If you are a little honest you will realise that their are many scientist who believe in creation. Like with the global warming scam don't expect them to receive the funding or get the nobel prizes.

Profeesor Whitten (Professor of Geneitcs, University of Melbourne in his 1980 address said
'Biologist are simply naive when they talk about experiments designed to test the theory of evolution. It is not testable. They may stumble across facts which would seem to conflict with its predictions. These facts will invariably be ignored and their discoverers will undoubtedly deprived of further research grants.'

Nothing has changed in this dishonest field of evolution.

btw my previous quote re the bending of observations by scientist comes from H.S.Lipson who was a Professor of Physics at Manchester University. Check out 'A physicist look at evolution'. Physics Bulletin vol.31, 1980, p138.

Don't be so naive. You were told the 'science is settled on climate change. Stop believing the evolution dogma and open your eyes to the obvious design of the universe.
Posted by runner, Monday, 15 March 2010 10:03:14 PM
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