baygon - the IPCC report is not about natural resource depletion, it is about corroborating AGW with CO2

The IPCC report has many findings, have you read it, any of it, any of the conclusions, any of the assumptions?

I think most people just babble on about what they think the IPCC have done, and is about, based on various fansites, not what it actually is.

please go and read it http://www.ipcc.ch/

BAYGON

Can you be more specific in how you define "natural resource depletion"?

Here is a link to the SRES, an interesting read.

Caveat - prepared by econometricians.

AR4 itself should not be confused with the SRES.

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Amicus

Following up from above;

Would you be satisfied if "a major scientific society or a coalition of National Academies of Science" conducted the review?

Have you read the SRES, and AR4?

I suppose it would help if I included the link :)

http://www.grida.no/publications/other/ipcc_sr/?src=/climate/ipcc/emission/

qanda - why do I feel I should check my wallet or look around for hidden cameras, your line of questioning makes me suspect that I'm being set up.

"Would you be satisfied if "a major scientific society or a coalition of National Academies of Science" conducted the review?"

Depends, on the actual individuals who ended up serving on the review and what their connections are or were, who they drink with are married to etc.

As I've said, it's all about managing perceptions and thus far it has been abysmal on the part of climate science, would you agree?

If you arrange a review that from the outset is unacceptable as to diligence, then credibility will be even further damaged.

I have read many parts of SRES and AR4, yes .. so? Some is interesting, some is so boring and dry I wonder if it is deliberately so (joke)

I'm not convinced if that's where the line of questioning is heading. It's all very petty, but again, I don't know enough about the science to recognize what's not being said or left out, but am skilled enough to know that's the case.

baygon - the IPCC report is not about natural resource depletion, it is about corroborating AGW with CO2

It is about a bit more than that - it is also about projecting forward what will happen unless we reduce levels of CO2.
If you look at their future scenarios none of them explore the impact of both peak oil and peak coal.
If you want to have a look at a peer reviewed article on the subject then this is the clearest I have read todate:

Validity of the fossil fuel production outlooks in the IPCC Emission Scenarios

you will find it here:

http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s11053-010-9113-1

All of the developed nations continue to see economic growth as essential to our future survival but a failure to take natural resource depletion into account ( we are also running fast out of the various materials that are essential for making our modern technology work); which assumes you can have infite growth on a finite globe is setting us up for a bigger disaster than any that can be imagined by just looking at CO2 emisssions.
To understand the impact that the growth fetish has on climate change have a look at this video
http://www.impossiblehamster.org/
only five minutes but makes the point eloquently

baygon I don't disagree with you at all about resources, it's just not what the IPCC is about.

I can't remember where I saw it, but there are recent papers saying AGW can't continue at the rate ascribed to burning fossil fuels, because there are not enough left .. have you heard that?

Regardless we have to find alternative energy sources, but I feel some of the ones that have the spotlight right now, wind, solar, may not be int he right direction and take the funding from alternatives yet to be explored, of course I have to admit to being a nuclear power supporter.

I'll take a look at the video later, I have limited B/W where I am right now - thanks

(ps - I used to go to a pub many years ago, where the folks running the snack bar were recent European arrivals, so when they called on the PA an order, like Bacon and Egg sandwich, it sounded like Baygon and Egg sandwich - I'm easily amused. Your tag always reminds me of that pub ..)