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Stark raven Barnaby Joyce : Comments

By Brian Matthews, published 25/2/2010

According to Joe Hockey, Barnaby Joyce is 'real' while Kevin Rudd and Lindsay Tanner are 'not real' ...

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SHAZBAZ001 ever thought of being a comedy writer Joyce is the village idiot,he looks like he knows less about the dismal science of economics.
than my dog
God help he gets anywhere near the Govt benches with real power
Posted by John Ryan, Thursday, 25 February 2010 5:00:15 PM
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Well thank god I never put much store in the scribblings of Poe and Dickens. I never read economic's nor accounting but I can see Barnaby saying debt has to be repaid and Swan and Tanner ridiculing Barnaby for espousing such 'twaddle'.

I think it's more real to know debt has to be repaid than to think it doesn't ... unless of course you are intent on defaulting.
Posted by keith, Thursday, 25 February 2010 5:28:42 PM
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First off I'm not sure which was more entertaining the article or the jedimasters response.

There is no doubt in my mind that "Barney off his banana" is playing to his audience.

Where substance and competence to pontificate is a decided disadvantage.
What appeals in this demographic is is the "Have a go mentality when combined with the paranoia of being left behind in increasing irrelevance. Those halcyon days when the Agriculturalist (man on the land) was hailed as the backbone of the country and what suited them therefore was in the best interests of the rest of the country.

Sadly they don't seem to be able to come to GRIPs with the reality, that the balance has changed i.e. The majority who are more interested in their problems that that of the once 'holy' farmer.

Unable to cope with their no longer divine status they feel miffed denied their rightful(sic) voice. Consequently the more aggressively pro country and anti intellectual the candidate the better.
Look at their heroes
Joh - Great politician but a real country bumpkin when it came to running a state corruption,cronyism,kitchen cabinet ran amok.

Pauline- Simple message no substance or real ability.

Katter Jr- A chip off the old block, (family seat) no nonsense no sense.
I. Plimer- Flawed scientist trading as a 'have a go rebel'.

Monckton - a showperson, no substance, egotist.

Alan Jones - showperson Hubble is needed to see the limits of his ego and an electron microscope needed to see his... substance.

Now BOHB - hits all the vague conservative pent up resentments but sufficiently vague and 'good blokeish' to not be seen as an establishment (spit) type. Therefore, not pinned to hard facts or principals.

IMO he isn't as dumb as he appears to be where he is.

In short he is an opportunist, using the country vote to further his personal ambitions. If he gets real power, he will blame everyone else/system for non deliver on what ever vague policy he supports now. Shades of Rudd, Howard et al.
A true student of Machiavelli's cynical politics.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 25 February 2010 7:24:26 PM
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Some Barnaby detractors should be pitied for being afflicted with one or more of the following conditions: left leg shorter than the right; colour blind to all colours barring green, pink and red; short-sighted; single minded; and prone to flatulence.
Posted by Raycom, Thursday, 25 February 2010 10:00:46 PM
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Who is Barnaby anyway?
He gained instant celebrity status for being the Senator who delivered Howard an absolute majority in the upper house - nothing more.

All he's been able to demonstrate is the ability to spontaneously churn out cliches at short notice - some of which make sense - and attract media attention as some sort of crazy-but-loveable eccentric.

In one term he's been elevated to become the defacto leader of his Party and that says more about the Nats than it does about him.

I still can't get over his claims to believe in Climate Change while simultaneously sponsoring and escorting a denier around his electorate to address meetings. That's not eccentric, that's just dishonest.
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 26 February 2010 11:32:59 AM
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wobbles, that's the issue which irritates many skeptics, the accusation of dishonesty from people who then prove in writing, they do not understand what's going on.

All of us who are skeptics do not deny the climate changes - though that's a fundamental plank of AGW believer propaganda and you appear to have swallowed it hook, line and sinker (well done!).

The "deny" part, if you wish to insult your fellow countrymen who you would like to change their minds, is based on skepticism of man's supposed contribution to climate change (beyond the normal everyday climate change that is already happenning and is NORMAL)and if so by how much (and does it matter in that case if it is bugger all?).

The constant cry that skeptics don't believe the climate changes is wrong and dishonest, it's like the claim that skeptics believe in mass pollution and actually prefer polluted countyside to lush green forrests.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

We get it that the AGW believers are frustrated to now be on the back foot, but it does not help your cause to lie and fabricate what skeptics do and think, that really is dishonest.

Thus, after all that, there is no contradiction with Senator Joyce accompanying anyone he likes who holds similar ideas, is there - it's still free country isn't it?

Do you get it, Senator Joyce believes the climate changes as do the "deniers!" who he sponsers (really, he sponsers "deniers!"?) so there is no conflict there, well not for those who actually realise the claim that skeptics (deniers! for you) don't believe the climate changes is dishonest and false.

Did you complain when Al Gore came out? No of course not, how silly, and he's a proven liar (British Court System).

Have a good weekend, go do some reading, try some sites which are not completely AGW propaganda.
Posted by odo, Friday, 26 February 2010 12:02:03 PM
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