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Religion - Is it finally time to know what you believe is probably wrong?

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I could not be bothered answering all this diatribe interpretation. OP2 offers nothing to the world!
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 30 November 2017 9:04:48 PM
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Opinionated2,

So, what religion are you then?

<<I am not an Atheist... I just think it is time people actually were told the truth!>>

Because you certainly donít sound like a Jew or a Muslim. Are you a Hindu?

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ttbn,

Thatís a good question.

<<Why would anyone spend time and effort on something they hate and don't believe in?>>

Probably for the same reason you spend so much time on, and hate, Islam.

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diver dan,

This statement assumes that atheism attempts to provide a purpose at all.

<<Atheism flounders around, lost for purpose.>>

It doesnít, of course. Atheism is simply a response to a single claim.
Posted by AJ Philips, Thursday, 30 November 2017 11:23:21 PM
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Oh look Runner's 100% wrong as usual...lol

I show Chapter and verse to prove what was said....Runner just gives your Pharsaically indoctrinated opinion...So why do you believe horrid lies against God again?...lol
It's not kooky to quote the exact Chapter and verse Armychair but I'm afraid that is exactly what the religions deliberately ignore...They never mention these verses.

Many religious people here will be reading these verses for the first time... But they love God and God's word...lmao

Can we trust Paul's conversion when he changes his story when it suits him, is a known Pharisee and should we ignore Jesus' warning about Pharisees in Matthew 23 like Runner obviously does? This is a HUGE problem for believers and people who claim the Bible is GOD's word!

Acts 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; BUT THEY HEARD NOT THE VOICE OF HIM THAT SPAKE TO ME.

OR

Acts 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, HEARING A VOICE, BUT SEEING NO MAN.

Both can't be true! Did they or didn't they hear Jesus' voice?

There are so many differences in the stories in the Bible between writers that it defies logic that it is God's word. But the Pharisaical teachings will always lie about that also...A quick example is the death of Judas Iscariot...

Matthew 27:5 And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went AND HANGED HIMSELF.

OR

Acts 1:18 Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; AND FALLING HEADLONG, HE BURST ASUNDER IN THE MIDST, AND ALL HIS BOWELS GUSHED OUT.

OOPS!...Two totally different stories. And who purchased the Potter's field?

Acts 1:18 says Judas did and Matthew 26:6-7 says the Chief priest and his council did.

Matthew 27:6-7 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.

And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.

OOps again...
Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 1 December 2017 1:55:49 AM
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Josephus can't answer so he takes the weaklings way out... He hasn't even read the Bible probably... but he believes it's God's word...lmao

Watch the ugly Christian come out in people like Josephus and Runner...lol

I am not religious whatsoever...I was lied to by so many Christians that I went and actually read the Bible and annotated it very precisely. The Pharisees amongst us are too lazy to study...lol

Now of course Paul lies against one of Jesus' most important teachings... That of the Prodigal Son...

The Prodigal Son is too long to reproduce here so here is a link... Luke 15:1-32 https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/luk/15/1/s_988001

Jesus says in Luke 15:6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.

This is talking about a sheep coming back to the fold...

Paul says

Hebrews 6:4-6 FOR IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY, To RENEW THEM AGAIN unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

The story of the Prodigal Son says it is possible, and I thought anything is possible for God...Paul sure was full of himself here and WRONG!

Like most preachers Paul loved speaking on behalf of Jesus and God but like them also got things continually wrong...

Paul was an oppressor of women, a liar, a thief and pretended he was an Apostle... and you guys fall for it...lol The churches have been built on Paul not Jesus!
Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 1 December 2017 2:16:14 AM
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When Paul wrote his letters he didn't realise someone would compile them and compare them. The Bible books are similar.

In church over the next few weeks count how many times your preacher quotes Jesus and how many times they quote Paul the Pharisee.

I understand how men believe Paul because all the power goes to them...but how do women believe Paul's rubbish? Ladies please wake up! You aren't second rate citizens like the Bible teaches!

Don't be silent - be forthright!

I don't want to pick on any one denomination or religion because they are all wrong and all believers are wrong - The Bible proves it.

In the SSM debate believers chose no based on two verses in the Bible from Moses.

Moses was a psychopathic war criminal which I will prove in future posts. As I have stated he put "the Lord said" so that his blind fearful followers would just accept anything he said. They are still believing Moses today...lmao

Jesus proves Moses lied!

Exodus 24:9-11 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: AND THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: ALSO THEY SAW GOD, and did eat and drink.

AND THE BIBLE SAYS JESUS SAID

John 1:18 NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

AND

John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. YE HAVE NEITHER HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANY TIME, NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE.

AND

John 6:46 NOT THAT ANY MAN HATH SEEN THE FATHER, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

So I guess believers have a really simple choice - Do they believe Jesus or do they believe liars like Paul and Moses?

OOPS
Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 1 December 2017 11:06:01 AM
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I am a theology graduate, and have read every verse in the various translations of the Bible over 40 times in my 77 years, and most of the Hebrew and Greek text so I have nothing for which to apologise.

Deliberate misrepresentations of verses out of a context is not intelligent understanding of the history or purpose of the text.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 1 December 2017 11:17:14 AM
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