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Live stock export has been a contorversal topic for some time now. I am doing a report on live stock export and i think that it should be continued. I would like to hear your opinions what ever they are.
Posted by davefrommallala, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 2:54:40 PM
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Goday Dave


You donít say why you think it should be continued? Perhaps if you told us a bit more of your argument in favor of live exports others could have some of level debate.
One reason for taking another look at the options Dave would be to consider the regional areas. Are you a live exporter yourself Dave?
Especially where you have a large Range of aboriginal people.
They need a future for their kids and steady income for their families. Plants or abattoirs bring others into play. It affects transport Dr Services small biz tanneries tourism to name a few. Are you running a station or know someone who is?
When you export an animal alive Dave you export it in its most valuable form. If you value add to that product and slaughter where you are you can open small goods factories using the bi product or get of the animals. This is termed value adding and it is what every country looks for to create employment for their people.
The people living in your area would be far better served to have many abattoirs tanneries, small good factories to create future employment for their people.
Also several agriculture educations schools around that area would be a huge draw card for international and local students.

We are interested in areas like yours for these types of ventures.
Be good to hear a bit more about you and where you are.

If you take a moment to click below it tells you a bit more.

http://www.halakindmeats.com/

Yo its good to have somebody else comment on the topic
Cheers mate
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 6:59:56 PM
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Dave,
Live export provides a benchmark value for the animals, and competiton amongst purchasers resulting in better returns for all farmers not just those live exporting.

Hassel & Associates did a study:
http://www.mla.com.au/NR/rdonlyres/E4B338BE-B543-47EE-8E1A-2AE80F4A070F/0/TheLiveExportIndustryValueOutlookandContributiontotheEconomyExecutiveSummaryJuly2006p.pdf

While it would be preferable to value add in Australia, the live export industry should continue until there is enough domestic demand to make it uneconomic to live export.

So until the time that live exporters can no longer afford to pay the prices offered by Australian meat processors, they have my support. As the above poster said
"When you export an animal alive Dave you export it in its most valuable form"
Posted by rojo, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 2:43:26 AM
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Dave
To be honest what Rojo means is most valuable form to the 'middle man' agent not the Australian People. Farmers were victims of having the wool pulled over their eyes years ago and it is going to take some time to re open our small good factories and abattoirs.
The real reason they buy them live is for the jobs for their people. Tans and hides and outlets manufactoring factories with those same tans and hides. Do you have any idea how much employment spins off from bi- products.

Yo mate we dont even own the dam ships. How clever is that. More jobs gone with the wind. Anyway Dave These lies about they got no fridges and they must have them alive for some sort of riutual is bull.
Thats all old Porkie that some cowboy came up with years ago when some libbers first brought the cruelty to the attention of public. The scarey part is that The Minister beleived it at the time. Funny as they guys thought.
Speaking of ships Dave and aboriginal people you really ought to look at the counter argument.
You know we have a ships built overseas when our coutry is surrounded by water.
What we need is their own business set up to run and jobs schools and inderpendance.
I am really angry that we have people in Australia living like some of these aboriginal people do Dave.

So if we ask The Aboriginal leaders to arrange meetings with some of the people and give them their own inderpendance to run stations with abattoirs and small goods factories it will bring more business into those areas also.
Bush tucker and smoked meats and cosmetics[non animal tested] in their own names is what these people need.

They have a natual stage to market those products to the world.
We have to allow them to run their own plants from the farm by growing the animals through to having factories producing their own brands of hundreds of products made from the bi of the animals.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 7:19:23 AM
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Dave I also agree with live exports. I personally don't see much difference between killing them here in our country as opposed to another. If we don't supply the animals, another country will. It makes no sense to listen to bleeding hearts about live exports. They seems to think that if we stop exporting them, then the practice will cease. Our farmers get a very good return from live exports and while the demand is there we should fill it. Strict regulation however is required on the transporters to minimise any cruelty.
Posted by alzo, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 10:57:47 AM
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Dave

Australia is the largest supply. No way they are going to soucre it elsewhere. In fact it is the Muslim people wanting to open plants here and provide jobs. Isnt it ironic that the Muslim people world wide can see huge oportunitys by re opening abattoirs here but some others cant. Its going to be them who end up putting these live animal exporters out of business.
Farmers will be the winners- As it should be along with our aboriginal people who will excell working under their own judgment.

When we ceased live exports before carcass from Australia "increased".

24 February 2006
Australian Muslims Are Against Animal Cruelty

The President of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, Dr. Ameer Ali
today called on the Australian media not to act irresponsible in misinforming the
Australian public about the real reasons for live exports.

Dr. Ameer Ali said that Muslims are primarily concerned to ensure that the animal is slaughtered in accordance with the Islamic Shariah, and that can be done in Australia under the Australian Government supervised Muslim Slaughter Program (AGSMS) and we want the Australian public to know that we do not agree to animal cruelty.

He further said that Muslims in the Middle Eastern countries readily accept
Frozen and chilled lamb and mutton from Australia, once it is Halal certified
under the program. Last year Australian lamb meat exports to the Middle East was up 36% to a record of 14,052 tonnes, and Australian mutton meat export to the Middle East was up 24% in the same period to 36,051 Tonnes (ref. Farmonline News 1 Feb 2006). This represents the equivalent of more than 2 million sheep which were slaughtered in Australia for Middle Eastern Muslim customers.

Dr. Ali said that the Australian Muslims does not support the cruel treatment of animals prior to slaughter, that has been documented in Egypt as the Qur`an dictates that animals should be treated with kindness.

Dr. Ameer Ali, President
Dr. Munir Hussain, Chairman, Halal Committee
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 1:23:16 PM
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