Called “Evangelii Gaudium,”..
http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm

the document offers..the Roman Catholic Church..a road map
for navigating..the complexities of the..modern world,..with the Gospel..as a compass

for.;.what the pope..called
“a new phase..of ev-angel-ization,.
*one marked by..enthusiasm..joy..and vitality.”

The document,..[the Joy of the Gospel)..is/a papal pronouncement..
known as an apostolic exhortation,..it..was the first major written work Francis..has created*..since he was chosen eight months ago to lead the 2,000-year-old church.

It challenges the church..to..“abandon the complacent/attitude that says: ‘We have always..done it this way,'”..and he seeks..to find novel,..more immediate..“bold and creative.. ways to speak to the faithful..and to make..the..service..of the church more meaningful.

The 84-page document is essentially..a compendium of what Pope Francis has said..in dozens of speeches and sermons since he became pope in March.

“It is the fruit/of personal reflection,”..the Vatican spokesman,
the Rev. Federico Lombardi,..said at a news conference.

“There is coherence..between..the words/of..the documents
and..the actions..of the pope.”

An apostolic exhortation..does*not/..define Church doctrine,
and the document makes clear..that some issues..like abortion,
or the ordination of women,,are not up for discussion.

But there is an acknowledgment too,..that the world has changed,
and that the church must change with it...It is time, Pope Francis said, for “still broader opportunities..for a more incisive female presence in the Church,” in particular “in the various other settings where important decisions are made.”

The local church must have greater say in decision-making, and the renewal of the church can only gain strength if it begins from the bottom up, the pope said.

Bishops and priests on the ground have a better sense of the needs of the faithful, as well as their frustrations, and parishes should become a critical part of the church’s evangelization and outreach.

A parish should be a point of “contact with the homes and the lives of its people,” and not a “useless structure out of touch with people or a self-absorbed cluster made up of a chosen few,” he wrote.

http://www.news.va/en/news/synthesis-of-the-apostolic-exhortation-the-joy-of

MORE EASy TO READ VERSION

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#Kerygmatic_and_mystagogical_catechesis

the easy to read,.INDEX
[active links]



I...A JOY EVER NEW,
A JOY WHICH IS SHARED [2-8]

II...THE DELIGHTFUL AND COMFORTING JOY OF EVANGELIZING [9-13]

Eternal newness [11-13]

III. THE NEW EVANGELIZATION
FOR THE TRANSMISSION OF THE FAITH [14-18]

The scope and limits
of this Exhortation [16-18]

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#THE_CHURCH%E2%80%99S_MISSIONARY_TRANSFORMATION

CHAPTER ONE
THE CHURCH’S MISSIONARY TRANSFORMATION [19]

I. A CHURCH WHICH GOES FORTH [20-24]

Taking the first step, being involved and supportive, bearing fruit and rejoicing [24]

II. PASTORAL ACTIVITY AND CONVERSION [25-33]

An ecclesial renewal which cannot be deferred [27-33]

III. FROM THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL [34-39]

IV. A MISSION EMBODIED WITHIN HUMAN LIMITS [40-45]

V. A MOTHER WITH AN OPEN HEART [46-49]

CHAPTER TWO
AMID THE CRISIS OF COMMUNAL COMMITMENT [50-51]

I. SOME CHALLENGES OF TODAY’S WORLD [52-75]

No to an economy of exclusion [53-54]
No to the new idolatry of money [55-56]
No to a financial system which rules rather than serves [57-58]
No to the inequality which spawns violence [59-60]
Some cultural challenges [61-67]
Challenges to inculturating the faith [68-70]
Challenges from urban cultures [71-75]

II. TEMPTATIONS FACED BY PASTORAL WORKERS [76-109]

Yes to the challenge of a missionary spirituality [78-80]
No to selfishness and spiritual sloth [81-83]
No to a sterile pessimism [84-86]
Yes to the new relationships brought by Christ [87-92]
No to spiritual worldliness [93-97]
No to warring among ourselves [98-101]
Other ecclesial challenges [102-109]

CHAPTER THREE
THE PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL [110]

I. THE ENTIRE PEOPLE OF GOD PROCLAIMS THE GOSPEL [111-134]

A people for everyone [112-114]
A people of many faces [115-118]
We are all missionary disciples [119-121]
The evangelizing power of popular piety [122-126]
Person to person [127-129]
Charisms at the service of a communion which evangelizes [130-131]
Culture, thought and education [132-134]

II. THE HOMILY [135-144]

The liturgical context [137-138]
A mother’s conversation [139-141]
Words which set hearts on fire [142-144]

III. PREPARING TO PREACH [145-159]

Reverence for truth [146-148]
Personalizing the word [149-151]
Spiritual reading [152-153]
An ear to the people [154-155]
Homiletic resources [156-159]

IV. EVANGELIZATION AND THE DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE KERYGMA [160- 175]

Kerygmatic and mystagogical catechesis [163-168]
Personal accompaniment in processes of growth [169-173]
Centred on the word of God [174-175]

CHAPTER FOUR
THE SOCIAL DIMENSION OF EVANGELIZATION [176]

I. COMMUNAL AND SOCIETAL REPERCUSSIONS OF THE KERYGMA [177-185]

Confession of faith and commitment to society [178-179]
The kingdom and its challenge [180-181]
The Church’s teaching on social questions [182-185]

II. THE INCLUSION OF THE POOR IN SOCIETY [186-216]

In union with God, we hear a plea [187-192]
Fidelity to the Gospel, lest we run in vain [193-196]
The special place of the poor in God’s people [197-201]
The economy and the distribution of income [202-208]
Concern for the vulnerable [209-216]

III. THE COMMON GOOD AND PEACE IN SOCIETY [217-237]

Time is greater than space [222-225]
Unity prevails over conflict [226-230]
Realities are more important than ideas [231-233]
The whole is greater than the part [234-237]

IV. SOCIAL DIALOGUE AS A CONTRIBUTION TO PEACE [238-258]

Dialogue between faith, reason and science [242-243]
Ecumenical dialogue [244-246]
Relations with Judaism [247-249]
Interreligious dialogue [250-254]
Social dialogue in a context of religious freedom [255-258]

CHAPTER FIVE
SPIRIT-FILLED EVANGELIZERS [259-261]

I. REASONS FOR A RENEWED MISSIONARY IMPULSE [262-283]

Personal encounter with the saving love of Jesus [264-267]
The spiritual savour of being a people [268-274]
The mysterious working of the risen Christ and his Spirit [275-280]
The missionary power of intercessory prayer [281-283]

II. MARY, MOTHER OF EVANGELIZATION [284-288]

Jesus’ gift to his people [285-286]
Star of the new evangelization [287-288]

its..well worth..looking..at
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#Kerygmatic_and_mystagogical_catechesis

the times..they are a..changing

Er, OUG,

Perhaps you might like to give OLO’ers the chance to follow up on some of your links and your multiple posts?

If you give us a couple of weeks before posting any more we might get the chance to at the very least do a “mind if I cut in?”

Make a cupper, sit down, read the bible to keep yourself occupied and put on a pair of boxing gloves and stay away from your keyboard.

Otherwise just take over the whole thread and we can just sit back and watch you have a marvelous chat with yourself!

Thanks.

ok..i..get it..spin/doc..but a week?
im so..keen to talk..about each line..
i especially hoped together..we could translate..it
in...its fullness..like the..astounding references..to joy

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#A_JOY_EVER_NEW,_A_JOY_WHICH_IS_SHARED

its been..thought over hard
i..just want to respect..its importance
[get it right/this time..doting the eyes..so to..speak]

but must let it develop..[i..get it].
if its going to work..it needs us all/to share..the JOY

such a strange word..joy[much/like toy..[its possibly more impressive..in..latin]..but more meaningful..at this time[ie imagine..if the word..was gay?

oh..joy..we got it right
and yep/in..just a few..more days..we shall hear..its a boy

[i..wanted to..clarify..the lead-up..to..christs birth
but it didnt become a topic..to buildup to..his birth

like today..where would jopseph/mary be..today
we know hhe will be presumed..to be in one month

but i see our beloved..mother..[swollen feet]..and all
but who..knows where..[in..the pre birthing zone?]

one church cant..alone..do it
but he can..make the..other;s..messengers saints
pick..one of the latest blue blood princes..[george]to...be babe/christ incarnate..but that topic didnt get up..this one did

now i let..it rest..[till tomorrow]..hoping others chuck..in..their revisions/clarifications etc..and will..comfort myself..with editing..the lambs/island thread..instead/

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177111

time..for straight talking
now we know..they are listeniing.

My friend I am sure to offend you and others.
Yet hid from my duty to be accountable for my actions amongst your mob once.
No more committed Christian than me.
Ignoring the cash hungry TV evangelists.
Even those sent to prison.
And ignoring too why so many Gods if only one made us.
Was God having a bad day, making so many others who claimed to be the one.
To put us at one another's throats in all of history in the names of so many Gods, then why?
What will heaven be like, billions on their knees forever totally loving a God, why?
Are my rights to follow my non-belief as right as yours to be you?
My Christmas is a continuation of what it was before the Christ Myth.
A drink a laugh boxing day cricket and? spending time with the family.

belly..<<..And ignoring too why..so many Gods..if only one made us.>>
belly..there is one god..[eternally/infinitely]as you..breed day-lilies..you..know day/lilies..create only day lilies

what else..is god to create/than gods?

[its almost/like you missed..what son/of god..means.
[jesus said..'see that..ye see me..do..ye will/do greater']

so god made gods
<<Was God having a bad day,>>

mate..sometimes..men/fail..to notice..the consequences
but..imsure..ingods mind..it was a great day[see/that..god/sees..the finished/result]

<<..so many Gods,...then/why?.>>..belly..any..idea/how huge infinity..is?[think..of god as a unionist..looking into..the vastness
saying/workplace/health/safety..indicate..its too much..even for god to figure out by himself..

<<What will heaven be like,..[with]..billions on their knees forever totally loving a God,..why?>>belly..you got god wrong[no one bows..before equals]..what means the words..[of heiniman]thou art god

<<..Are my rights..to follow.my non-belief/as right..as yours to be you?..>>belly..none of us would be happy with each others wives
so..of course..believe if you..have/it..dis-belief..if you need to

god dont get upset/he allows Adults..TO..BE ADULT..when their ready.

<<My Christmas is a continuation/of what it was before the Christ Myth.>>funny..how a unionist..says he dont believe..in christ[but yet want triple time..for/not..taking a day off]

the word is hypocrites..[ie atheist expecting a holy-day..means holiday]..and whats with sundays..you athiest dopnt need them..yet happily take the day off

but rightfully mate..thats hypocritical..no-god means give back them days..if their not..'special'..to you..face it mate..thats being two faced

no god..but..sure i take the sabbath
no..god means no reason..not to work..every day.,..for the same pay

but now you got me trolling/my own thread
and spin/bot..promised..but he too has no..opinion..on the topic

so im..doubtful..there is.any reason..for breaking down..whats revealed..but..here goes..

<<1.THE JOY OF..THE/GOSPEL fills..the
hearts..and lives..of all..who encounter Jesus.>>..

[two points..gospel..means..just/the 4 witness..[not the pauline stuff..the comfort comes..from the..first/person..witness/and jesus/fine-words..[not the creed.]

<<Those/who accept..his offer/of salvation..are set free
from sin,..sorrow,..inner emptiness..and loneliness.>>

as long as the sin..no/more
nor yearn..for sin..in..their heart

<<..With Christ..joy..is constantly..born anew.>>

ahh.men..its..nice..to/be..with the good guys[helping..each-other]
fighting..for other..instead..of fighting..each-other]

<<In this..Exhortation..I wish/to encourage..the Christian faithful to embark/upon..a new chapter/of evangelization..marked by*this joy, while..pointing/out..new paths for..the Church’s/journey..in years to come.

I...A JOY..that..is..EVER..[re-NEW-ed,..
becomes..A JOY..WHICH IS..properly/SHARED..[with/other/..for/other]

anyhow/have..a..win*field

my..latest ..edit..of jesus/word
reveal..his dislike.of.the ritual..[of..us..eating/his flesh/blood]

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177181

but..heck..if its..feeding/the poor..whats/the harm
but..it must/be..more than..mere crumbs

here..is a/tasty..more-sell?

170...Although..it sounds obvious,..spiritual/accompaniment
must lead..others..ever..closer to God,[the father..VIA..the son]..
GOD*..in whom we..attain true freedom.[once/we cast/of..these mortal/skins]..

<<Some people..think they/are free..if they can..avoid God;
others,,only/feel..good..by avoiding doing..of good

<<they fail..to see that..they remain..
existentially/orphaned,..helpless,..homeless.>>

jesus..ASSURED..us..our/fathers-HOUSE..has*many/rooms
sheep/goat/tares/wheat/chaff..all..have-GOT..their home..ONLY.by/in god's/house;

<<They cease/being pilgrims..and..become drifters,
flitting around..themselves..and..never/getting..anywhere.>>

the father..gave/us/life..
to live/learn/seek/find

<<To accompany..them/would be.counterproductive..*if it..became
a sort/of therapy/supporting..their self-absorption..and ceased to be a pilgrimage..with Christ..*to the Father.>>[our/OMNI-PRESNT?..FATHER!

obscure..but..who measures..productivity=,man
see our brothers..as a rad..to perfect.good/god.
[that..we did/to..the least..we did/unto..the most.

<<171...Today..NOW..more than ever/we need..men..and women>>

not children?

<<who,..on the basis/of their experience..of accompanying others,
are familiar with processes/which call..for prudence,/understanding, patience..and docility..to the Spirit,.so that they/can protect the sheep..from wolves..who would scatter/the flock.>>

materialist-ism
here..[in..the next/life]..
we sort..the wolves..from/the sheep..simply..by listening

<<We need to practice/the art of listening,..which is/more than simply hearing...Listening,..in communication,..is an openness of heart..which/makes possible/that closeness..without/which genuine spiritual..encounter..cannot occur.>>

ahh/men..to..that
but..i..just stopped..listening

listen*

<<Listening..helps us to find..the right gesture*and word
which shows that*..we are more..than simply..by*standers>>/judges.

<<Only through..such respectful..and compassionate listening can we enter on the paths of true growth..and RE_awaken..a yearning for the Christian ideal:>>..[teaching/by learning.

<<..the desire..to respond fully*..to God’s love
and to bring..to GOOD/GODLY..fruition..what he has sown in our lives. But..this always demands..the patience..of/one..who knows*..full well what..Saint Thomas Aquinas/tells us:

<<..that any*one..can have grace and charity,..and yet
falter in the exercise..of the virtues..because..of persistent “contrary inclinations”.[133]>>

dual-minded-ness..[following two masters
believing simultaneously..two./.seeing opposing concepts
an eternal-god..needs a more eternal..mother..god..is inall men..not just some.

<<In other words,..the organic unity..of the virtues always and necessarily exists in habitu,..[in-habituation.in ego-mind/body].. even though..forms of conditioning..can hinder..the operations/of those virtuous habits...

<<Hence the need for..“a pedagogy..?..which will introduce..people step by step..to the full appropriation..of the mystery”.[134]>>

citation/needed

<<..Reaching a level of maturity..where individuals..can make truly free..create..joyfull..and responsible decisions..calls for much time and patience.>>

yes..ingods time...not/mine/nor thyne

<<..As Blessed Peter Faber/used to say:..“Time is God’s messenger”.>>

and eternity..means blessed..peter/faber
even..now..still/says it..in eternity..[where the timed illusion..only frames..earthy-context][oh..well..nothing was striring]

Dear Johan (OUG),

Thanks for your early Christmas messages.
Here's one for you:

"The outback was buzzing with wonderful news
A wallaby passed it to two kangaroos
Spiny echidnas emerged from the ground
Busy young bandicoots bounded around
A web-footed platypus gazed at the view
Some fluffy-tailed gliders looked longingly too
Carolling kookaburras laughed with delight
Crimson rosellas sang right through the night
Along loped an emu as though in a dream
Koalas stopped munching to show their esteem
Dancing grey brolgas stepped forward and bowed
Bright-crested cockatoos chattered aloud
A possum quite joyfully pricked up one ear
And wide-eyed with wonder a wombat crept near
The stars of the Southern Cross pointed the way
To the Babe who was born on that first Christmas Day."

Joy to The World!

Foxy and you One Under God are good people.
Foxy,s out back tale has every bit as much truth in it as the God Myths.
Hoping both and for that matter every one enjoys the Bacchanalia as much as I will.

Dear Belly,

Thanks for your well wishes
and here's Wishing you
Everything that's Beautiful in Life.
May your spirit keep smiling
and your soul continue to dance to good music!

Yeah
Joy to all the abused little children?
Joy for all the advances stopped?
Joy for all the women maligned and mistreated for working/using their free will/having an abortion etc etc?
Joy to the homosexuals that they hate with a passion?
Joy for all their riches and lucre?
Joy for all the wars and conflict?

I dont see any joy in your insane belief in some superman in the sky.
It is just an excuse to be nasty and intolerant and filled with hate while pretending you are oh so loving and kind and peaceful.
Makes me want to vomit!

Dear Mikk,

Don't you know that you can only be responsible for your
own actions and not those of other people?
And each of us can make a difference with a loving heart.
There's enough hatred in the world.
You words don't speak kindly of you. Blaming others is
not a solution. Look to yourself and what's in your own
heart and take responsibility for it. What others may or
may not do is not anything you have control over.
Only yourself. And how you behave is how you will be
judged by others. So far your look is not good.
But you can always improve.

cont'd ...

Dear Mikk,

As for wanting to vomit?

Please go ahead. It just may help you
feel better and it may also get rid of
the bile currently spouting from your lips and being
directed at people whose religious beliefs (or lack of)
you actually don't know anything about

mikk..your..sickness..is revealing[and apparent]..but..
sickness can..be healed..will..be healed..once we let the pain go

im sick..of this world[satans realm]..here..in..these realms
SUPREME..good..can mix freely..with supremely vile..[believe..it or not..you werre told this..before even coming..here]

lest we forget..we EACH..are here ONLY because..we REJECTED...heaven..[gods eternity]..

the horrid things that repulse you..ARE
SPECIFICALLY..there..to inspire the revulsion..in..you
[so..next time..your offered..heaven..or hell..you can stay..where revulsion..cannot dwell]

see revulsion..leads you to reject hell
yet..your revulsion..is also..that which..keeps you from..heaven

heaven..is about..the living of love...in joy..[en-joy]

EVERY-one..of us..get injured..by perversions..[one/perversion/or the other]..but these..only occurred,,because we COULDNT..forgive others..[and go into heaven]..nor LOVED the evil/enough..[to go..to hell.]

so it was back...down..to earth..we fell
just like satan..before us fell..[he cant forgive.forget either.]

its so simple..[watch dogs..or children]
one second./.their pure..cute love/next demonically challenged
[as the bible says..BEWARE..of what you think..your thoughts MAY/be entertaining angels,,[or demons]..unaware

mikk..WE ARE HERE/now..incarnated..[sewn..into..skins]
because we WERNT..good enough..for our bodies off light[in heaven]
nor stained our soul..with hurtful passions to go to hell.[last time]

next time..realize..that hate..of others
stains our very soul..the heavier it gets..the more bound..to it we are.

i..know..my..impatience..too stains my soul
but its like poisen..as jesus said..who..is without sin?

victims get caught-up..in..a poor me.,.but..because their victims
dont mean/much..till/they..can forgive..they get..sent back...here.

sometimes bully..other times the victim
but joy..is only..one small act..of forgiveness..of other
to get grace,..you..must first give it

[being forgiven..only sticks..if..we..'go and sin..no more.

Realities are more important than ideas

231. There also exists a constant tension between ideas and realities. Realities simply are, whereas ideas are worked out. There has to be continuous dialogue between the two, lest ideas become detached from realities. It is dangerous to dwell in the realm of words alone, of images and rhetoric. So a third principle comes into play: realities are greater than ideas. This calls for rejecting the various means of masking reality: angelic forms of purity, dictatorships of relativism, empty rhetoric, objectives more ideal than real, brands of ahistorical fundamentalism, ethical systems bereft of kindness, intellectual discourse bereft of wisdom.

232. Ideas – conceptual elaborations – are at the service of communication, understanding, and praxis. Ideas disconnected from realities give rise to ineffectual forms of idealism and nominalism, capable at most of classifying and defining, but certainly not calling to action. What calls us to action are realities illuminated by reason. Formal nominalism has to give way to harmonious objectivity. Otherwise, the truth is manipulated, cosmetics take the place of real care for our bodies.[185] We have politicians – and even religious leaders – who wonder why people do not understand and follow them, since their proposals are so clear and logical. Perhaps it is because they are stuck in the realm of pure ideas and end up reducing politics or faith to rhetoric. Others have left simplicity behind and have imported a rationality foreign to most people.

233. Realities are greater than ideas.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#Realities_are_more_important_than_ideas

This principle..has to do/with incarnation..of the word/and its being..*put into practice:..“By this you know/the Spirit of God:..every spirit..that confesses that/Jesus Christ..is come in the flesh..is..from God”(1 Jn 4:2).

The principle of reality,..of a word..already made flesh..and constantly striving..to take flesh anew,..is essential to evangelization.

It helps us to see/that the Church’s history..is a history of salvation,..to be mindful of those saints..who inculturated the Gospel in the life/of our peoples..and to reap the fruits/of the Church’s rich..bimillennial tradition,..[without pretending to come up with a system of thought..detached from..this treasury,..as if we wanted to reinvent.the Gospel.]

At the same time,..this principle..impels us to put/the word into practice,*..to perform works..of justice and charity..which make that word fruitful...TO/Not to put.the word into practice,..to/not to make it reality,..is to build on sand,..to remain in/the realm of pure ideas..and to end up..in a lifeless..and unfruitful self-centredness and gnosticism.

The whole..is greater..than the part

234. An innate tension..also exists between..globalization and localization...We need to pay attention.to the global so as to avoid narrowness..and banality.

Yet we also..need to look to/the local,
which keeps..our feet..on the ground.

Together,..the two prevent us..from falling into..one of two extremes...In the first,..people get caught up in an abstract, globalized universe,..falling into step behind..everyone else, admiring..the glitter of/other people’s world,..gaping and applauding at all..at..the right times.[like..trained/beast..reacting/tothe crack..of a whip].

At the other extreme,..they turn ..into a museum of local folklore,
a world apart,..doomed to doing/the same..mundane..mindless/unthinking/things over and over,..and incapable..of being challenged by novelty or appreciating..the beauty which God bestow.. beyond their/own..narrow/mind..projected-borders.

235...The whole is greater..than the part,..but it is..also greater than the sum of its parts...[and each/part..is vita;]..There is no need,..then,..to be overly obsessed with limited..and particular questions.

We constantly..have to broaden/our horizons..and see the greater good which will benefit us all...But this has to be done without evasion or uprooting...We need to sink our roots..deeper into the fertile soil..and history of our native place,[cultural/custom..which is a gift of God..wrought..by our beloved..departed.

Through an exchange..of gifts,secrets].the Spirit
can..lead us ever more fully..into truth and goodness.

Relations/with Judaism

247. We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked, for “the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable” (Rom 11:29).

The Church, which shares with Jews an important part of the sacred Scriptures, looks upon the people of the covenant and their faith as one of the sacred roots of her own Christian identity (cf. Rom 11:16-18).

As Christians, we cannot consider Judaism as a foreign religion; nor do we include the Jews among those called to turn from idols and to serve the true God (cf. 1 Thes 1:9).

With them, we believe in the one God
who acts in history,..and with them..we accept his revealed word.

248. Dialogue and friendship with the children of Israel are part of the life of Jesus’ disciples...The friendship which has grown between us makes us bitterly and sincerely regret the terrible persecutions which they have endured,..and continue to endure, especially those that have involved Christians.

249. God continues to work among..the people of the Old Covenant and to bring forth treasures of wisdom which flow from their encounter with his word. For this reason, the Church also is enriched when she receives the values of Judaism.

While it is true that certain Christian beliefs are unacceptable to Judaism, and that the Church cannot refrain from proclaiming Jesus as Lord and Messiah, there exists as well a rich complementarity which allows us to read the texts of the Hebrew Scriptures together and to help one another to mine the riches of God’s word.

We can also share many ethical convictions
and a common concern.for justice and the development of peoples.

Interreligious dialogue

250. An attitude of openness in truth..and in love must characterize the dialogue..with the followers of non-Christian religions, in spite of various obstacles and difficulties,..especially forms of fundamentalism on both sides.

Inter-religious dialogue is a necessary condition for peace in the world,..and so it is a duty for Christians as well as other religious communities.

What/is..not helpful..is/..a..diplomatic/openness..which/just
says..“yes”..[to everything]..in order/to avoid problems,..for/this would/be..a way..of deceiving others..

and..denying/them..the/good..which/we.have been given
jointly..to share generously..with ALL/others.

Evangelization and interreligious dialogue,..far from
being opposed,..mutually support..and nourish..one another.[197]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn197

252...Our/relationship..with/the followers..of Islam
has.taken..on/great-importance,..since..they/are now significantly present..in many..traditionally Christian countries,.where/they can freely..worship..and become fully..a part of society.

*We must never..forget/that they..“profess/
to hold/the faith..of Abraham,..and together/with us..they adore..the one, merciful God,..who will judge/humanity on..their/our/last day”.[198]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn198

The sacred/writings.of Islam..have retained..Christian teachings; Jesus and Mary..receive profound/veneration..and it/is admirable to see..how..our/brother/Muslims both.young and..old,..men and women,..make time/for daily prayer..and..faithfully/take part in religious-services.

Many of/them also..have a deep conviction /that
their life,..in its entirety,..is from..God..and for God...

They also..acknowledge the/need.to respond..to God..with
an ethical/commitment..and..with mercy towards..those/most in need.

253...In order.to sustain.dialogue..with Islam,..suitable training is essential..for all involved,..not only/so that.they..can be..solidly and..joyfully grounded...in their own identity,

but so/that..they can/also ..cknowledge the values of others,.. appreciate..the concerns underlying..their demand/ and shed light..on shared beliefs.

We Christians..should embrace..with affection.and respect Muslim immigrants..to our countries..in the same-way/that..we hope.and ask to be received..and respected..in countries..of Islamic/tradition.

I ask..and I humbly entreat..those countries to grant Christians freedom..to worship..and..to practice their faith,..in light of the freedom which..followers of Islam..enjoy in Western countries!

Faced with..disconcerting/episodes of violent fundamentalism,..our respect fo..true followers of Islam..must..lead us to.avoid hateful generalisations,..for authentic Islam..and the proper.reading of the Koran..are opposed..to every form..of violence.

254. Non-Christians,..by God’s gracious initiative,..when they are faithful..to their own consciences,..can live “justified by the grace of God”,[199]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn199

and thus..be..“associated to..the
paschal mystery of Jesus Christ”.[200]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn200

But due/to..the sacramental..dimension of/sanctifying grace,..God’s working..in them..tends/to produce signs..and rites,.sacred expressions..which in turn bring..*others to..a communitarian experience..of journeying towards God.[201]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn201

While/these lack the meaning..and efficacy of/the sacraments instituted..by Christ,..they can be/channels which the Holy Spirit raises up..in order to liberate non-Christians..from atheistic immanentism..or from purely individual..religious experiences.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176858

The same/Spirit everywhere..brings forth various/forms of practical wisdom..which help people.to bear suffering..and to live-in greater peace and harmony.
http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf

258...Starting from/certain social-issues..of great importance for the future of humanity,..I have tried..to make explicit../once again the inescapable/social*dimension..of the Gospel-message and

*to encourage..all Christians..*to demonstrate it
[by their words,works/attitudes and deeds.]

CHAPTER FIVE

SPIRIT-FILLED
EVANGELIZERS[go-god/spell-singers]

259. Spirit-filled evangelizers..means evangelizers
fearlessly open/to..[ALL]..the working..of the Holy Spirit.

At Pentecost,..that Spirit/made the apostles
go forth..away..from themselves..and turned them..into heralds
[tawlki9ng/singing/revealing..of God’s wondrous deeds,[each/capable of speaking..to each person..in his or her own language.

be it car-speak..or cricket/speaking
or..song/music/dance..plays..art..charity.grace..mercy/love


The Holy Spirit..also grants/the courage..to proclaim
the newness..of the Gospel..*with*boldness (with/passsion/parrhesía) in every*time..and place,..

even when..it meets/with opposition.

Let us call/upon him today,..firmly rooted in..gace-ful/mercy-full..prayer,..for without prayer..all our activity..risks being fruitless..and our message empty.

*Jesus wants evangelizers..who proclaim..*the/good*.news..not only with words.. but above all by..a life transfigured by God’s..presence.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177082

260...In this final chapter,..I do not intend to offer..a synthesis of Christian spirituality,..or to explore great themes/ike prayer, Eucharistic adoration or the liturgical celebration of the faith.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177068

For all these..we already have valuable texts..of the magisterium and celebrated writings..by great authors...I do not claim to replace or improve upon these treasures...I simply wish to offer some thoughts about..the spirit of the new evangelization.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177047

261. Whenever..we say that something..is “spirited”, it usually refers to some interior..impulse which encourages, motivates, nourishes and gives meaning to our individual and communal activity.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#176988

Spirit-filled evangelization is/not..the same as a set of tasks dutifully carried out..despite one’s own personal inclinations and wishes.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#176945

How I long..to find the right words..to stir up enthusiasm for a new chapter..of evangelization..full of fervour, joy, generosity, courage, boundless love and attraction!
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#176944

Yet I realize..that no words of encouragem/ent will be enough unless the fire..of the Holy Spirit burns in our hearts. A spirit-filled evangelization is one guided by the Holy Spirit,..for he is the soul of the Church called to proclaim the Gospel.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#176947

Before offering some spiritual motivations and suggestions, I once more invoke the Holy Spirit. I implore him to come and renew the Church, to stir and impel her to go forth boldly to evangelize all peoples.

I. REASONS FOR A RENEWED MISSIONARY IMPULSE
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#REASONS_FOR_A_RENEWED_MISSIONARY_IMPULSE

Appearances notwithstanding,..every person..is
immensely/holy..and deserves..our love...Consequently,.if I can help at least..one person..to have a better/life,..that already justifies the offering/of my life.

It is a wonderful/thing.to be/God’s faithful people.
We achieve fulfilment..when we break/down..walls
and our heart..is filled/with faces and names!

The mysterious/working
of/the..risen Christ..and his Spirit

275...In/the..second chapter,..we reflected/on..that lack
of deep/joyful/spirituality..which turns..into pessimism,.fatalism, judgmentalism/racism/feminism..and mistrust.

Some people..do/not commit..themselves.to mission..because/they think that nothing.will change..and that it is useless/to make the effort.
edited

It is a self-destructive/attitude,.for “man cannot
live without hope:..life would become meaningless and.unbearable”.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn211

If we..think that/things are..not going to change,.we need
to recall that Jesus Christ has triumphed over sin and death and is now almighty. Jesus Christ truly lives...Put another way, “if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain” (1 Cor 15:14).

We are invited to discover this, to experience it. Christ, risen and glorified, is the wellspring of our hope, and he will not deprive us of the help we need to carry out the mission which he has entrusted to us.

276. Christ’s resurrection is not an event of the past; it contains a vital power which has permeated this world. Where all seems to be dead, signs of the resurrection suddenly spring up. It is an irresistible force.

Often it seems that God does not exist: all around us we see persistent injustice, evil, indifference and cruelty. But it is also true that in the midst of darkness something new always springs to life and sooner or later produces fruit.

Each day in our world beauty is born anew, it rises transformed through the storms of history. Values always tend to reappear under new guises, and human beings have arisen time after time from situations that seemed doomed.

Such is the power of the resurrection,
and all who evangelize are instruments of that power

the fall?

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe013.htm

CHAP. VIII.The "Bright Nature" of man is taken away.THEN Adam wept and said, "O God, when we dwelt in the garden, and our hearts were lifted up, we saw the angels that sang praises in heaven,

*but now we do not see as we were used to do;
nay, when we entered the cave,[earth]..all THY..creation became hidden from us."

2 Then God the Lord said unto Adam, "When thou wast under subjection to Me, thou hadst a bright nature within thee, and for that reason couldst thou see things afar off.

But after thy transgression thy bright nature was withdrawn from thee; and it was not left to thee to see things afar off, but only near at hand; after the ability of the flesh; for it is brutish."

3 When Adam and Eve had heard these words from God, they went their way; praising and worshipping Him with a sorrowful heart.4 And God ceased to commune with them

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe018.htm

cause..it..needs be put somewhere
but would be out of place..elsewhere
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177355

and no-one cares..anyhow
so..it passes..time.

cain/exile
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe084.htm

then cain..moves on
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe085.htm

the best lies..yet need externals..of truth..
let..the dead tend..the dead

the Torah is his..who/study..the law..who studies Torah
acquires it..as his own; G-d's..wisdom becomes his wisdom.

We are creatures..of the actual.
We cannot live..on potential nourishment,..or be emotionally satisfied/by potential relationships;..on the whole,..we judge people by their actual conduct,..as opposed to their potential/to behave a certain way.

Reality,..to us,..is what is,
not what.might be.

his is largely due to the fact..that we are physical/emotive/
reactive/remembering..humane-spirit..beings...but briefly..sewn/into/flesh.

It is..a most telling..idiosyncrasy/of..our language..that immaterial IMPLIES..insignificant:..if we cannot touch*it..or see it,..it's not real/to us.

http://www.chabad.org/holidays/chanukah/article_cdo/aid/2686/jewish/Accumulating-Lights.htm

G-d has given us..His Torah,..for He has delegated
un-to mortal man..the authority to interpret it.and apply it.

Torah is..thus a partnership..of the huma/ and the divine,./where a kernel of divine/wisdom..[ex-tension/e-mission/of god..germinates in the human mind,..gaining depth,..breadth..relevance..companionship.. and definition,..and is actualized..in the physicality/of human life.

In this partnership,..our human finiteness and subjectivity become instruments of the divine truth,..joining with it to create the ultimate expression of divine immanence in our world.

So when the sages of Shammai/and Hillel debate..the question of which is more significant..from the..perspective.of Torah law,..the actual or the potential,..potential is/the purest..and most perfect form of every reality.

the essence...of the thing,..as it transcends..the limitations and imperfections..imposed upon it..when it is translated into physical actuality.

For G-d,..then,..the potential is a higher form/of being than the actual...This is why we say that,..for G-d, the creation of the world did not constitute..an achievement.or even a change in His reality.

The potential..for creation/existed..in Him all along,
and nothing..was added..by its translation/into actuality.

It is..only we,..the created,
who gained anything..from the actual/creation of the..world.

Indeed,..we often judge/a thing's potential..by the..our/perception..of/the-actual:[wee experienced]/thus affirm..as true..if this much/has been actualized,..this proves/that..there is potential..worthy of regard.

Envision,..however,..a being..'who..is neither physical..nor finite;

a being/not limited..by space,
not/limited..by/time..or any other..creed/ritual/prayer..framework.

In such/a being,..potential..*does not..
lack actualization,..for everything..is/as good..as done.

we/are..allowed..the revealing/choice.

*Accumulating*Lights

what..style..do you follow[accumulate/decrease*]

=..[Courtesy..of MeaningfulLife.com]

The/House/of Shammai..says:
On*the first day,..one lights eight lights;
from here on,..one progressively decreases.

The/House/of Hillel..says:
On*the first day,..one lights..a single light;
from here on,..one progressively increases.

Talmud,/Shabbat..21b..
can/one../serve..two/master's?

Dear Johan (OUG),

Give it a rest.
You're overdoing it.

there is a secret..of life
and there is a secret..to living

i get angry..
yet..EVEN..alex/jones..has..seen/the light
http://rss.infowars.com/20131203_Tue_Alex.mp3

in-fact..his anger..helps..me..to/control/mine
http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss

[the pod-casts..have 4 minute commercial/breaks
AVOID..listening to them..they are designed to depress

anyhow..now...im..calm.
i hope any..with..hurt or anger..to
allow alex to lift it from...you..too.

my guides urge more
but first stay calm..the pope has met nutty yahoo
who gave the pope a copy of the fathers book..and they are talking/about a visit..in..may..but..we know atheists[zionists/settlers..dont want that

it should be xmass/to george
but..who cares

right

what i like about podcasts..is you can
fast foward by the bits that get ya down

Our biggest problem is our reactive mind. See... here's the truth of the matter; life is perfect. It is perfect for those who have perfected eyes. Perfected eyes are not an easy acquisition, nor is halting, arresting, the reactive mind.

If you are looking for the devil (let's hope not but... metaphorically speaking), you need look no further than your own mind. That is the seat of divisiveness and the agency of war upon yourself and others.

Your mind is your biggest enemy and potentially, your best friend, once you are able to turn it right side up. Although many of us are born screwed up from the gitgo, one can easily say the majority of us are truly screwed up in the process of puberty, when the world divides on us into oppositional states which, is one of the reasons the Tribe inspired intentional gender confusions are pushed and proliferated from the initiation of public education.

Their watch-phrase is; 'destroy the family unit'. After that it's Brave New World or The Penal Colony, depending on your choice of authors. Following that you got shitewits for lunch and 1984 on the menu. 'neti, neti' is probably a Zen thing; not this, no, not that either, more or less.

So... you have to stand guard at the gateway of the mind,

at that avenue where thoughts enter..and you have to reject everything that comes in..and also throw out whatever is there already. What you will find is that..once you've expelled the surface chatter..there is a whole other layer below..that and possibly yet more before you hit 'the beautiful silence'.

The logic behind this is that whatever is real is not going anywhere. Following a period of persistent practice,..the mind will be cleared of garbage.and you can spot the garbage bombs as they seek to enter in and turn your mind back into a landfill.

The natural,.or supernatural state of the human mind is one of brimming optimism and enthusiasm..Tzu has a number of passages that relate to this...The image given, if we colloquialise or manifest it at street level is that of a fellow with an continuous tumescence (a man in full,..so to speak and women have their own version that manifests as wisdom, oracles..and a kinship with Lady Nature) and a song being sung through the whole of the day with no strain on the voice.

I met such a person and such encounters are not easily forgotten. One could simply dismiss such a character and label them mad,..were it not for the forehead..and features that so exactly mirror those of the ancient Japanese and Chinese figurines that you may or may not have seen by now.

It is easy to become disheartened at the amount of willful ignorance, apathy and appetite pursuit that surrounds you on all sides, as you attempt to make your way somewhere,..wherever somewhere is, &#9835;somewhere a place for us.

Take my hand and yadda yadda&#9835;.

It's all set up to bring you down..It was one thing in the not recent past because then you could just migrate to another location, or step outside of it altogether..but now you have to deal with passports and permissions; countless government and social restrictions, on action and movement,.not to mention a relentless pay as you go system of enriching virtual vampires at every turn.

In other words,..the squeeze is on.

You have to set out upon your every day..in a consciously loving state of mind..and I am no less an offender in this regard than anyone else.

At least I can remind myself and it seems I have reminded myself ten thousand times ten thousand and I still veer to one side or the other if I don't have my attention fixed on my way forward...There's a great Hindu poster that shows a charioteer being drawn off the road by his team of powerful horses...

These are symbolic of the senses.

The chariot is the mind and the charioteer is the self...We can see this and we can know this but it seems like, in almost no time, that we forget it...It takes constant enforced remembering to stay on course.

Few people have the stamina or the will for it and they pay a heavy price for not paying attention. ..As I have pointed out many times, or maybe this is the first time in this fashion,.

the Major Arcana of Tarot symbolize archetypes;..actually,
the first 7 symbolize forces or powers...The second 7 symbolize mediums and..the last 7 symbolize states or conditions brought about or corrected by the proper channeling of the forces or powers through the mediums.

The Magician stands for 'focused attention' or 'concentration' and the dual meaning that attends the image is 'life and death'. This can be the result of paying attention and not paying attention so, pay attention. One can learn a lot from the sun.

All the sun does is shine. It shines on everything. We should too and at some point it will shine through us...We should make the sun our shining example.*We are frozen sunlight...We are sunlight in extension.

The whole point is to turn into conscious sunlight and reside in our solar bodies. This is the objective of The Operation of the Sun, as perfectly exemplified in the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus. Wake up!

I am always talking to myself..when I am engaged in my business here. It would be less..than effective were I not doing..so.

The chariot of the body

The five horses represent the five senses (tongue, eyes, ears, nose and skin).
The reins, the driving instrument, symbolize the mind.
The driver is the intelligence.
The passenger is the spirit soul.

Bhagavad-gita 6.34 The chariot of the body. The five horses represent the five senses (tongue, eyes, ears, nose and skin). The reins, the driving instrument, symbolize the mind, the driver is the intelligence, and the passenger is the spirit soul.

For the mind is restless, turbulent, obstinate and very strong, O Krsna, and to subdue it is, it seems to me, more difficult than controlling the wind.
PURPORT

The mind is so strong and obstinate that it sometimes overcomes the intelligence, although mind is supposed to be subservient to the intelligence. For a man in the practical world who has to fight so many opposing elements, it is certainly very difficult to control the mind. Artificially, one may establish a mental equilibrium toward both friend and enemy, but ultimately no worldly man can do so, for this is more difficult than controlling the raging wind. In the Vedic literatures it is said:

atmanam rathinam viddhi sariram ratham eva ca
buddhim tu sarathim viddhi manah pragraham eva ca
indriyani hayan ahur visayams tesu gocaran
atmendriya-mano-yuktam bhoktety ahur manisinah

"The individual is the passenger in the car of the material body, and intelligence is the driver. Mind is the driving instrument, and the senses are the horses. The self is thus the enjoyer or sufferer in the association of the mind and senses. So it is understood by great thinkers." Intelligence is supposed to direct the mind, but the mind is so strong and obstinate that it often overcomes even one's own intelligence.

http://www.asitis.com/gallery/plate23.html

He would have referred to it not as Hindu but as God consciousness, specifically Krsna Consciousness for he detested the Impersonalists who refer to God only in the impersonal form, being voidists, nihilists, Isvara wannabes and ultimately crypto-demons as they are.

people are herd animals, and that when behavior is viewed in relationship to the herd mind, a lot of things can be explained and understood.

Have you ever had a discussion with them and come to the conclusion that no matter what you said, no matter how good your reasoning and logic, that there was no way that you were every going to have a meeting of the minds with this person. You can be right and the subject of your discussion so obvious that a dog with a note in his mouth could win the argument, yet this person can't comprehend it. And it's not that the cult member is to stupid to understand obvious reality. They may have a college degree, a good high tech job, and be a member of Mensa. You might even be able to discuss the mathematics of why time slows down as you approach the speed of light, yet they remain unconvinced that world is round. How is that possible? It's obvious, yet they can't see it. Why? Why? Why?

We have already established that they are smart enough. They have the brain power to comprehend what you are saying. There's not a shred of doubt that you are right and they are wrong, so wrong that you can't believe that they actually believe what they believe. What's even more confusing is that this cult member is as adamant about his beliefs as you are about yours.

If we assume that people are behaving far below their capacity to reason, then we have to conclude that reason is not the dominate aspect of the mind. We have to conclude that there are other factors in the brain that are dominate over our reason and these other factors cause us to behave and believe what we do.

We have to give up the assumption..that because we are human
and intelligent,..that intelligence rules.

Clearly..it doesn't.
But if/it doesn't,..what does?

herd-mind..ergo..ego/re-call...of primitive/survivalist fears

http://www.churchofreality.org/opinion/herd.htm

According to a report from Radio Vatican,
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/10/30/pope-francis-denotes-christianity-as-an-illness/

the Pope was quoted as stated the following:

“In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought…

For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements.

The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/21/pope-francis-right-wing-christians/

CURIOUS*..WHO..IS ITCCS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyk4n2lXhpE

never the less..LIENS against govt/property..
is a way..of keeping..that public..in..public service

note..the star of david..in the background
is../the sign/of the beast
6 straight lines
6..points of intersection
6 small triangles..[surround a 6 sides hex=o-gram]

anyhow..the mark..of the beast..is in our sig-nature
[by your signature..on..govt forms..you enter satans realm
the realm..of paper civil..[evil/statute law..]thus fallunder mans statute..not gods love.

anyhow the second tape is rubbish.
but take it as a sign..of how satan..first makes insane..
those he hopes..to deflect..with..his ..neo-ways..under martial-law

..i looked..didnt like what i saw
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ITCCS

so im/not going there..often..doing the right/things
even..for the wrong reasoning..[but hurting no-one]..
[including thy self]..is still..the right..thing to/do..[on the micro/level..]

[but/NoT..regardless of how..we got there?]
but how long we remain..in/that grace..by showing mercy

its bad enough..i judged saul/
paul..but not peter..[but by his works]

time..it seems has voted..the pope..a man..[of..the year]
that can..puff up ego[that still quiet voice within
[that..seemingly..inner voice..that allows us to enter-tain..or enter-taint]..

ergo
beware..we may entertain..angels..
as much as demons..via ego..

[thats why name changes with title]

thats why todays heading..includes the caution
bad govt produces bad people..oops its going to be a thats why day
http://whatreallyhappened.com/node?page=1

signs of the need..4 more caution

"In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press...

They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers." -- U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917

http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-francis-issues-peace-day-message

it appears clear that contemporary ethical systems remain incapable of producing authentic bonds of fraternity, since a fraternity devoid of reference to a common Father as its ultimate foundation is unable to endure.

True brotherhood among people presupposes and demands a transcendent Fatherhood. Based on the recognition of this fatherhood, human fraternity is consolidated: each person becomes a “neighbour” who cares for others.

“Where is your brother?” (Gen 4:9)

2. To understand more fully this human vocation to fraternity, to recognize more clearly the obstacles standing in the way of its realization and to identify ways of overcoming them, it is of primary importance to let oneself be led by knowledge of God’s plan, which is presented in an eminent way in sacred Scripture.

http://www.news.va/en/news/popes-peace-day-message-presented-in-vatican

is an indivisible good. Either it is the good of all or it is the good of none. It can be truly attained and enjoyed, as the highest quality of life and a more human and sustainable development, only if all are guided by solidarity as “a firm and persevering determination to commit oneself to the common good”.

This means not being guided by a “desire for profit” or a “thirst for power”. What is needed is the willingness to “lose ourselves” for the sake of others rather than exploiting them, and to “serve them” instead of oppressing them for our own advantage.

“The ‘other’ – whether a person, people or nation – [is to be seen] not just as some kind of instrument, with a work capacity and physical strength to be exploited at low cost and then discarded when no longer useful, but as our ‘neighbour’, a ‘helper’”

please excuse..a slight deviation
i..put up a link..to this thread
here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15786&page=0
that should have gone to here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#177801

im/not sure about needing to finish..the edit..of..the ur/text

that..continues/from..the link..@page..200..
http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf

I'm not sure if my favorite Bible story is the one about Moses and his Ark, or the Bible story about Goldilocks and the Three Bears. I tend to favor the Goldilocks story, as its a bit more believable. LOL

thanks paul..[last/night..it was explained..to..me]
the story..of noah..[which helps explain..mosus]

the key word..to'get'..the story..of noah..lies
in one word..panspermia..[it seems that..in..noahs time
they had done some gmo/works..CREATED giant/hybred..mutants

[think/like goliath..or them..bunches..of grapes..it took 2 men to carry]..at the time when..satanist/angels..fell to earth..

its a great story..
but i wasnt paying attention..to it
cause..even/there..[with/the one word]..panspermia..is revealed..yet another wild theory..of man

anyhow paul..the story..of how an..OUTCAST..ended up writing the basis of 200p..PLUS..years of law..is more important..than..
a lost little girl..trying to be a meal..and a sleep..*
then getting growled..at

as if hunger and tiredness..is a crime
when adulterating gods basic-law.,..is the bigger crime

on..second thought..no your right
in..the right light..their about equal..[as stories go]
but goldy/locks..beat the lockup..of flawed law

[see that the LAW..against adultery..WAS ONLY re NOT..adulterating..*the basic/law]..not moral/policing

as becomes clear..when we read..it with hindsight.

as usualy..i..write unclear..despite my..hardest efforts
see noah..had to occur..to..kill off the satanist mutants[think dinosaurs]..just as today..we yet again..been..mutating..mutants[gmo]

gmo/inoculation..by..areosol
[ignoring..3 rd..gen gets sterility]..
http://preventdisease.com/news/13/111513_Australia-Determined-To-Forcibly-Vaccinate-By-Intentional-and-Controlled-Release-Aerosolized-GMO-Vaccine.shtml?utm_source=111513&utm_campaign=111513&utm_medium=email

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1999/04/toxic-pollen-bt-corn-can-kill-monarch-butterflies

http://12160.info/main/mobilepage/desktopMode?target=%2Fxn%2Fdetail%2F2649739%3ABlogPost%3A1358861

like have you heard..grandma,..now was a pig..[peppa-pig?]
and daddy..was an ape..[no..really..ITS SCIENCE]
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-11-30/science/44595591_1_humans-chimpanzees-traits

recall..the mutagens..of heavy metal..[depleted uranium]?
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp%3Fdiscussion%3D6101&sa=U&

aspartame..is good for you?
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/11/06/aspartame-most-dangerous-substance-added-to-food.aspx

http://www.blacklistednews.com/%E2%80%98Lack_of_Genocidal_Application%E2%80%99_Keeps_Science_From_Exploring_Thorium_Energy/31058/0/38/38/Y/M.html

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/us-genocide-and-national-interest/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/10507434/Nobel-prize-winner-accuses-scientific-journals-of-tyranny.html

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15664&page=0

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10417838/Harsh-truths-about-the-decline-of-Britain.html

http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/spielbergs-hoax-the-last-days-of-the-big-lie-debunking-the-last-days/

http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/war-by-deception-2013-full-version/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/nuclear-war-could-mean-extinction-of-the-human-race/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/we-are-by-all-measures-on-the-very-precipice-of-what-is-potentially-the-most-enormous-financial-economic-and-social-collapse-in-the-history-of-the-world/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/social-justice-groups-demand-congress-slash-military-budget-spend-money-on-people-peace-planet/

http://www.visibleorigami.com/2013/11/a-world-beyond-lawyers-and-vampire-banks.html

http://investmentwatchblog.com/confessions-of-an-economic-hitman-w-john-perkins/

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/world-war-z-and-the-wrath-of-netanyahu/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2521901/Forget-Big-Bang--Rainbow-Gravity-theory-suggests-universe-NO-beginning-stretches-infinitely.html
related[see anadgenda?]
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bang.php

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-threat-of-terrorism-real-or-just-another-control-mechanism_122013

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131210/05541825518/ustr-says-tpp-must-be-kept-secret-because-public-is-too-stupid-to-understand-it.shtml

THE DEPLETED URANIUM/..link
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6101

this is a vital..clue..to..the pan/sperm-ia

http://12160.info/photo/effect-of-depleted-uranium?context=featured

ie DELIBERATED genoside
http://www.naturalnews.com/043208_GMOs_farm_animals_birth_defects.html
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/12/11/mammograms-harmful-waste-time-money/
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/20-dead-from-plague-in-madagascar-chances-of-international-spread-increasing_122013

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/cias-skeletons-are-being-unearthed-and-the-atrocities-are-ugly/
http://vactruth.com/2013/06/22/shaken-baby-syndrome/
http://www.nvic.org/Doctors-Corner/Edward-Yazbak/Multiple-Vaccinations-and-the-Shaken-Baby-Syndrome.aspx

http://investmentwatchblog.com/bill-gates-depopulation-plans-caught-on-camera/

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/general-electric-knew-reactor-design-unsafe-isnt-ge-getting-heat-fukushima.html

http://libertyfight.com/2013/turn_in_your_guns_at_masonic_temple.html
http://www.wfsb.com/story/24195364/connecticut-becomes-first-state-to-require-labeling-of-gmos
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/critics-fda-plan-on-antibiotics-a-gift-to-industry-that-fails-to-address-public-health-crisis/
http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/News/Media-office/Press-releases/2013/Press-releases/WTP054930.htm

http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739%3ATopic%3A1376097
http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Federal_Reserve%3A_100_Years_Of_Boom_And_Bust/31097/0/38/38/Y/M.html
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/ethiopian-born-israeli-mp-rejected-by-blood-bank-told-she-has-special-blood/

http://12160.info/photo/us-police-have-killed-over-5-000-civilians-since-9-11?context=user

http://www.zippittydodah.com/2013/12/zio-claws-and-imperial-war-bank-machine.html

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/an-enemy-of-apartheid-is-an-enemy-of-israel/

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/congress2013.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V2R8R8xgZ88
http://investmentwatchblog.com/just-follow-the-easy-money-and-forget-everything-else/

damm..it..lets try to fill-in..some blanks
with a fairy story..

satan..and half..the sons of god[angels]
fell to earth..THEY decided..to create..subhuman[sub-angelics][huh-men]

so..just for fun..they hybredized..an ape/with a pig
and created adam
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-11-30/science/44595591_1_humans-chimpanzees-traits

note please..the importance of the GMO/apple
the warnings of jonah..etc

darn..the truth dont want/to comeout
so we will just have to submit..to satan

it is after all..his realm
but would you rather the fairy tales told to children
or as paul/said..the meat..[yet you look not even at the links

are you more ape
or more pig?

or are you...now HUMANE*..like our father
who gifted us ALL..with/the gift of creation..imagination

rise up..from where ..we come/from..
look towards were we will all..shortly be

satans minions are in a panic
they..have tried to kill off us mutants..for a long time
in-time..

as/the veils drop from..your eyes/./THEN..it will be wise to..recall..you are children..of the light..not darkness..evil..cannot ever..overcome evil
with evil[that only does greater vile

ONLY..love can save us all
justice..not vengence

remove the guilt..and what remains..yet bare good fruits[us]

in the beginning was..a hybrid/created..of TALL/fallen-angels
his name is adam..adam..was genomicly..signified..as [X]..from the piglet..and a y..of a chimp]

anyhow..by removing the..dna..from..adam
and throwing away..the useless y..then doubling up on/the X
was..the [Xy]..off adam..TRANS MUTATED..into..the XX..of eve

now adam..was..still..[XY]..adam
and eve..now was..[XX]..eve

they begat cain..who went rogue..and was outcast..into/the great southlands[oz]..he as first born..inherited..his fathers curse
[land could be tilled..but would refuse...to yield.]

but we now have dr carl..on..tv..talking about causality
this is synchronicity..trying to.guide my words

anyhow he says 3 dimensions/plus time
but thats earlier..than this nursery rhyme

im..busy..telling fables..and here is..this false god
spouting on/about the rainbow..theory..[ie no/big bang]
see previous links

what the bigger fable?
next..theory..[anyhow i..have explained..previously
that cain/able..set up/the laws..of fixture/versus fungable
[fixture=the land[the earth-mother]..and fungable-a tradeable good]

but i will explain..it later
when..we see if we can grow-up..get serious..
and work together..just/like god..has allways..intended.

NOTE THE SPIN..[from..the pig/link]

<<>It is, of course, a well-established fact that animals sometimes attempt to mate with individuals that are unlike themselves, even in a natural setting, and that many of these crosses successfully produce hybrid offspring," he adds...>>

no*..they ALWAY..make sterile..ie mules
[do/you..see any fertile/mules?..even today?]

[ie when/the west was 'won'...from the indigenous
they didnt want..food independence..[hence/killing buffolo/etc

[and by..sending in..the invaders
with fertile horses..means they could be bred..for food

but hey sterile mules
[a STERILE*..hybred..[the result of a donkey/horse]
by food depletion[as usual]..thats how the west was won.

hybreds ALLWAYS..are sterile..full-stop

<<>Dr Eugene McCarthy says that the fact..that even modern-day humans are relatively infertile..may be significant in this connection.>>

YES AS AN EXCUSE>.for gmo...sterility
[but even/there note the set-up..that follows

<<.."If a hybrid population does not die out altogether,>>

yeah..lol..BIG..IF*

<<..it will tend to improve..in fertility with each passing generation under the pressure of natural selection.>>

as the demons of saatan..ssort our passive genes
needing DAILY medication..ignorant/enslavement..[unter menche].to serve the elite..[say 500 million..of us tops..is all..they/need..breed/feed.

<<..Fossils..>>
fromthe flood extinction event
not a coommet fromgod

<<>.indicate that we have had at least 200,000 years to recover our fertility since the time that the first modern humans (Homo sapiens) appeared.>>

and if we alow them to win
thats how long.it will take..to regain..
the place..where we stand..today[at..this KEY*/moment..in time]

if your not with..us
know your only being a usefull..idiot..for those who want/us all dead*

well not really..allof us
but like colonization..kill our leaders..[the head]
and the body can/be enslaved..[read deliberate dumbing down..of amercias education]

they love the useless idiots
not like we love dogs..but like kids get..the small/joy of tricking the adult..

fooled you great grand-dad
yes child your a clever child..is it your time to..shuffle..the deck?

http://www.infowars.com/ecoscience-pdf-john-holdren-really-did-say-those-things/
Planet Infowars
December 12, 2013
http://rss.infowars.com/20131212_Thu_Alex.mp3
http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss

EcoScience: Authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population

depopu52_02Click here to download the pdf to Ecoscience—-> https://ia601506.us.archive.org/2/items/Ecoscience_17/JohnHoldren-Ecoscience.pdf

p796: One way to carry out this disapproval might be to insist that all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption—especially those born to minors, who generally are not capable of caring properly for a child alone.

If a single mother really wished to keep her baby, she might be obliged to go through adoption proceedings and demonstrate her ability to support and care for it.

Adoption proceedings probably should remain more difficult for single people than for married couples, in recognition of the relative difficulty of raising children alone. It would even be possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, perhaps as an alternative to placement for adoption, depending on the society.

p787-8: Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control

MASS VIOLENCE LINKED TO PRESCRIPTION PSYCHIATRIC MEDICATIONS - A RESOURCE PAGE
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ssriviolence.php

control..the water
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/12/epa-attack-on-self-sufficiency-expanding-authority-would-control-all-water-even-mud-puddles-2847722.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/12/epa-attack-on-self-sufficiency-expanding-authority-would-control-all-water-even-mud-puddles-2847722.html
now its jelly fish
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/did-humans-descend-jellyfish

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SMALL_ineedtruth.jpg

http://www.reallibertymedia.com/2013/12/monsantos-dirty-helpers/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/in-global-gmo-fight-terminator-seeds-on-the-rise-again/
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/who-should-you-believe-when-it-comes-to-the-safety-of-genetically-engineered-foods/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/global-depopulation-next-on-the-agenda-of-the-nwo/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/investigating-the-911-attacks-the-nsas-lone-wolf-terrorists-justification-for-mass-spying-is-nonsense/

but dont worry..lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2517426/Were-surrounded-Earths-Infographic-reveals-2-000-planets-habitable-60-light-years-us.html

http://12160.info/page/the-6-000-page-report-on-cia-torture-has-now-been-suppressed-for-

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/99-years-ago-a-pause-in-the-war-on-christmas/

You only have to mention Moses and his Ark and there is always one blasphemer who wants to insist its Noah who had the Ark. No,no,no Noah was the cool dude who lived inside the whale. What version of The Bible are you reading? I'm reading the King Tut version as revised by Brother Cyril in 1972. Just getting to the juicy part where Adam and Steve are making out in the back garden. LOL

A little girl was talking to her teacher about whales. The teacher said it was physically impossible for a whale to swallow a human because even though it was a very large mammal its throat was very small.

The little girl stated that Jonah was swallowed by a whale. Irritated, the teacher reiterated that a whale could not swallow a human; it was physically impossible.

The little girl said, "When I get to heaven I will ask Jonah". The teacher asked, "What if Jonah went to hell?" The little girl replied, "Then you ask him"

Christmas lights are banned in Cardwell North Queensland by the Local Council after Muslim Imam Adnan Janutab complained the 100 Muslims that attended his Mosque found the Christmas lights offensive.

George, Father Joe will be most disappointed at that bit of debunking of his Mussie nasty story. God, we were all waiting for the 'Usual Suspects' to jump on that one, demanding a new round of crucifixions.

OUG, I hope your little girl wasn't at a "Tykes" school as she would have a lot more to fear than a bloke in a whale. That good Christian, Father Fixemup in a dog collar would have been lurking around somewhere. I have only recently learned that my x sister-in-law was molested by a Catholic priest at primary school in the late 1960's, more than once. I wonder how many people out there have never came forward about these sicko's. She didn't want me to know because she knows how much I "love" the Catholic Church and she doesn't want to do anything about it.

<<NOT TRUE -- that Muslims were seeking to ban Christmas lights (not yet anyway!)>>

But here's something that is true. When the Greens get their fingers (out of the orifices they currently have them in and) on to the levers of power.One of the first things they intend to do is ban all Christmas lights, on account of their contribution to CO2 emissions and global warming.

And as a further progressive innovation --designed to wean kids off the gratuitous consumption that masquerades as gift giving --all Santa Clauses thereafter will need to look like Bob Brown: http://whitelawtowers.blogspot.com.au/2011/07/bob-browns-glass-jaw.html#.Uqy6Byf86a4

PS Don't ask Paul to verify this rumour he is only a pleb in the Green hierarchy and is not privy to such secret clauses.

SPQR, one of the 'Usual Suspects' has graced us with a link to Whitelaw Towers, SPQR after 'Mein Kampf' that web site must be your favorite read. At least The Greens are big enough to have a hierarchy, unlike your party where there is Jim Saleam on top, with SPQR the Herman Goering of the party, and only other member, sitting at number two.

Sorry guys, I posted the Cardwell story from someone who lived in QLD assuming it was correct.

im..watching..some updates..of jesus birth..[ewtn]
and recall..the edomite..ordering the killing of children..

these murded innocents..dont recieve much attention
and as they occure after dec 25..perhaps we could commemorate..the first innocents ..that die in..his name..

its important..to make..the christs message real..
why do we ignore the murder of thhe innocents

recall..the christ can not return..upon..lies
but only by truths/and works of repentance..by grace/mercy
lest our comforter return..angry

just as an aside..its noteworthy..that the hells solar maximum
is subdued..as noted by the extreem cold..being experienced
this is a sign..the anger of hell..has been subdued
except..mankind..needs the passions..of the sun
to continue..life on..earth

we must not forget..unexpected consequence
and spirit passion..is key

we give aid and comfort..with anger too demons
only with love PASSIONATELY..in..our heart
canthis world survive..

this year we must get it right
its that important

what i would like to see..is jesus life..told fully
between..his birth celebration..right until..his emergence
from the death/cave..[that..refutes both..the fear..of judgment..and resection..days.]

ie if the atheist.haters..who..presently..sleep eternity away
could..be made awaken..their passions could helppower the earth..for the next milenium

we dont..need another iceage

its important..that gods children..know how great they arte
but its our greatness we fear..not..our smallness

we free ourselves..ONLY..by freeing others
we must awaken..the sleepers gently..by revealing..love works..wonders
but this rream..is sustained..by passion..alone

[but what is salt..that has lost its taste?]
somehow my..guides thought..that a question..and showed me the reply..as i..wrote..

[the reply?..cold...darkness].[black/salt]

i..was just wondering..[mind wandering]
when..my guides..suggested..checking up on the..pappa
and it seems he is just doing..some..much/needed house cleaning

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/popes-crackdown-on-order-that-celebrates-old-latin-mass-riles-traditionalist-catholics/article15972231/

it may seem comforting..to 'speak/in..tongues'
but it only comforts demons[and witches..who think..saying it
in..latin..[or whatever..of the dead tongues]..somehow draws powers close

docters use it..to describe..the simptom
[and somehow the sick person..feels somehow..
simply..by naming what he sees..[in tongues]..that the doc..can..fix it..

[ditto those who/dont..know god..
heck even atheists make up 'words'..its crude..but its a placebo..just like creed..[by their..works..will we know,..them]

but also..by their understand-able/abilties..
the trinity..isnt..god..nor the son..its all the holy spirit

so why talk in tongues?
why feign..it..god alone..is real..

so stop..trying to fake it..
simply..let thy works..speak for you
and dont be distracted..by..minimal/infighting

BY..THEIR WORKS..alone

of/course..misunderstandings..can arise..[with-out/words]

The..Great..[silent]..Debate

A..long-time..ago,..the Pope decided..that all..the Jews..had to leave Rome...Naturally there/was..a big uproar..from the/community. So the Pope..made a deal...He would/have..a..debate..with a/member of the..Jewish community...If..the Jew won,..the Jews could stay./.If the Pope won,..the Jews would leave...The Jews realized..that they had..no choice...so..They looked around..for a champion/who could defend..their faith,..but no-one..wanted to volunteer..[It was/too risky.]

So they..finally picked..an old man..named Moishe,..who had/spent his life..sweeping up/after people,..to represent them...Being old and poor,..he had the least/to lose,..so he agreed...He asked/only for one condition..to the debate...Not being used/to speaking very much as..he cleaned up..around/the settlement,..he asked/that neither side be allowed..to talk...The pope agreed.

The day of/the great-debate came...Moishe.and the Pope..sat opposite each/other..for a full minute..before the Pope..raised his hand..and showed..three fingers...Moishe looked/back..at him..and raised one finger...The Pope waved..his fingers..in a circle around his head.

Moishe pointed..to the ground/where he sat...The Pope pulled/out a wafer..and a glass of wine...Moishe pulled/out..an apple.

The Pope stood/up..and said,.."I give up...This man is/too good...The Jews..can stay."..An hour later,..the cardinals.were all around the Pope..asking him..what happened...The Pope said:.."First I held up three fingers..to represent..the Trinity."

"He responded..by holding up..one finger..to remind me that..there was still..one God..common to both..our religions...Then I waved my finger..around me..to show him,..that God/was all around us...He responded..by pointing to/the ground,..showing that God..was also right here/with us."

"I pulled out..the wine..and the wafer..to show that/Jesus absolves us..from our sins...He pulled out/an apple..to remind me..of original sin...He had an answer..for everything...What could I do?"

Meanwhile,..the Jewish community..had crowded/around Moishe,.amazed that this old,..almost feeble-minded man..had done what all their scholars had..insisted was impossible!

"What happened?"..they asked..."Well,"..said Moishe,."First he/said to me..that the Jews..had three days..to get/out..of here...I told him..that..not one of us..was leaving...Then he told me..that this whole city..would be cleared of Jews...I let him know..that we were staying right here."

"And then?"..asked a woman.
"I don't know,"..said Moishe...
"He took out..his lunch..and I..took out mine...and..then..he..left."

What Father Joe should be saying is "Sorry guys like all those bible stories my 'Muslim Nasty Story' was a load of rubbish." Just stick to posting bible bunk that will do.

Christmas for Puritan Christians in New England USA was culturally and legally suppressed. That's right folks a bunch of Christian fruit loops banned Christmas, no baby Jesus in the manger, no Christmas tree and certainly no LIGHTS. Puritan heaped contempt on Christmas, in fact on the first Christmas Day in the New World Puritans put their loathing for the day into practice, spending it building their first structure in the New World – thus demonstrating their complete contempt for the day. These are the same jolly folk who burn people at the stake for witchcraft.
In reality these Christian fruit loops had it right. I'm sorry to disappoint but the whole Christmas nativity stuff, the stable, the manger, the wise men, the shepherds, the baby Jesus etc etc is another fairy story. To claim Jesus was born in a stable on December 25th 1AD has as much realism as if you claimed he was born on Mars February 29th 1066.

of course much as usual..that you say..is right
jesus was born..in a cave..and later..they built..a church..over it

and the persecution..is to the great shame
of all..those who participated..[if its any consultation..the grand inquisitor..though..actually..caged..[for his own protection..is even now..in.this confinement..totally..unrepentant]

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/wsl/wsl11.htm

yet still we have other greats
http://www.quakercenter.org/quaker-quote-archive/

let ye without sin..not upset..those called alone[only]..
to serve the good of god

let the demons in hell..fix the baddies
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Gone_West.pdf

oops..sorry this/posted..at wrong thread
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15820&page=0

some people..take things as signs
like recall the ice-man[grand inquisitor].?
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/wsl/wsl11.htm
then but a few signs

[thus be carefull..for what you pray for
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#178185

'Iceland model: How to deal with bankers
should be standard for whole world'
http://xrepublic.tv/node/6566

Iceland Jails Former Bank Bosses
http://sorendreier.com/iceland-jails-former-bank-bosses/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/snowburst-5-to-6-feet-of-snow-in-upstate-new-york/

they say..a picture=1001..words

In Turkey, goats (still alive) coated with ICE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OW9jlnCjM8&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OW9jlnCjM8&feature=player_embedded

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/gorecicle.jpg
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/snow1.jpg

It's all over Israel and Palestine.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/apartheidwallinsnow.jpg
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/images-of-the-day-im-dreaming-of-a-white-apartheid/
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/in-photos-braving-the-cold-and-snow-to-protest-blood-diamonds-and-occupation/

http://www.visibleorigami.com/2013/12/love-and-fear-and-heart-of-populace.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/12/andrew-p-napolitano/a-conspiracy-so-vast%E2%80%A8/

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/bankers-arrested-civil-war-averted.html

http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/the-bill-clinton-murders-bill-clinton-exposed/

http://xrepublic.tv/node/6578
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2013/12/14/football-game-or-tear-gas-and-bullets-palestinians-put-racist-ad-to-test/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/volckers-market-making-mayhem-and-the-feds-money-for-nothing/

http://govtslaves.info/blogger-jailed-refusing-erase-stories-wrote-exposing-powerful-political-family/

http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/12/14/sandy-hook-one-year-later-there-are-more-questions-than-answers/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2524003/The-great-Christmas-rip-Shoppers-end-paying-50-toys-retailers-increase-prices.html

diy
http://whatreallyhappened.com/node

the death./.of peter..otoole..
[who played sir lauwrence..]of greater arabia..is noted

it has a happy..ending..[see the last
[the REAL..sir lawrence..returned..and told us..there is no death

if..you dont believe..me..read..it and weep
http://www.divinetruth.com/PDF/People/Other/Jane%20Sherwood%20-%20Post%20Mortem%20Journal.pdf

the dead..from the titanic..too
didnt..die*

http://www.ghostcircle.com/ebooks/William%20T%20Stead%20-%20The%20Blue%20Island%20Pardoe%20Woodman%20&%20E%20Stead%20.pdf

oh well..we are all..in denial..at one level..or the other
here is why[and its not only prescription..meds/booze]
but anything..that lowers our..body defenses
and lets the vile get in

http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

Catholic Priest Gives Powerful Homily
on Just War Doctrine:

Preemptive War & Regime Change "Totally Immoral"
http://libertyfight.com/2013/Catholic_Priest_Homily_Just_War_Doctrine.html

A traditional Catholic priest has given a powerfully persuasive homily outlining the Church's teachings on the Just War Doctrine and the immorality of preemptive war, explaining that war for 'regime change' or for vague, unproven reasons is always immoral and unacceptable under church teaching.

Here are excerpts of what I considered the key points of the sermon, and link to the free audio MP3.

He also urges young people to use prudence and careful analysis when deciding whether they should join the military. The 28-minute sermon, titled Military Service and Unjust Wars, is posted at AudioSancto.org.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/media-works-to-keep-mass-shooters-profiles-secret/

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/12/15/if-talks-fail-boycotts-will-arrive-on-steroids/

Toxic Loophole: Israel refuses to give up chemical weapon stock

http://xrepublic.tv/node/6579

http://12160.info/page/admits-murder-in-europe-sex-for-secrets
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2013/12/are-too-many-kids-taking-antipsychotic-drugs/index.htm

http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/secret-fdic-plan-to-loot-bank-accounts

they can catch./.kids..but not bankers?
this speaks volumes
http://intellihub.com/2013/12/15/police-posing-as-11th-graders-arrest-25-students/
http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/the-bill-clinton-murders-bill-clinton-exposed/

revenue raising..plus spying;..onthe little fish
;[invasion..of privacy/abuse of power..somehow..govt can trap..you..
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/victory-license-plate-scanners.html
but not the real capitalist..criminanal's.. reaping/plundering/looting govt and govt services..pensions..bank account;s

http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/secret-fdic-plan-to-loot-bank-accounts
http://www.kgw.com/news/Enrollees-report-erroneous-debits-by-WA-Healthplanfinder-235244701.html

cop..beats inmate..to death
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=32918

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/student-suspended-for-a-year-for-gasp-hugging-a-teacher_122013

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obamacareposter.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2524003/The-great-Christmas-rip-Shoppers-end-paying-50-toys-retailers-increase-prices.html

http://m.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/12/the-6-000-page-report-on-cia-torture-has-now-been-suppressed-for-1-year/282318/

The US-Israel Strategic Partnership Act -- a bill which critics said would have codified into US law discrimination against Arab and Muslim Americans at Israel's borders -- is "dead in the water," Arab American Institute said in a statement.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=657008

http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2013/12/14/football-game-or-tear-gas-and-bullets-palestinians-put-racist-ad-to-test/

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/non-lethal-weapons-maker-under-fire-for.html

http://investmentwatchblog.com/obamas-socialist-agenda-is-destroying-middle-class-greg-mannarino/

petition..to pope for help in gaza
http://bit.ly/18Sx9zX
Gazan families are suffering. Israel and Egypt have cut off fuel supplies so that Gazans have had no electricity and vital services for 2 months. Families, in freezing temperatures have no light, no heat and hospitals are overflowing while sewerage is flooding the streets and people have to be ferried by boats and canoes.

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/italian-sets-himself-fire-st-peter-s-square

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-medias-complicity-in-crimes-against-humanity_122013

http://bit.ly/1dpYlIY
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Israel_gets_ready_for_%E2%80%98short%2C_sharp_war%E2%80%99_against_Hezbollah/31344/0/38/38/Y/M.html

http://www.redressonline.com/2013/12/us-plans-gazafication-of-the-west-bank/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/is-the-u-s-government-changing-the-amount-in-peoples-financial-accounts-and-manipulating-financial-systems-with-its-offensive-cyber-capabilities/

http://www.blacklistednews.com/%27Green_bullets%27_to_fully_replace_lead_by_2018/31330/0/0/0/Y/M.html

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/video/tom-sullivan/media-disinformation-and-framing-syrian-war

Will the Pope..insist on..seeing Gaza[with/media]..this time?

CNN recently/reported on Israeli PM..Netanyahu’s reception..at the Vatican..and plans for..the Pope to visit Israel..in May.

Recalling the shabby treatment..of religious leader.. on previous visits to the Holy Land,..let us hope Pope Francis..takes a firmer line..than his predecessor..and insists on seeing*Gaza and ministering..*to his terrorized flock there.

In May 2009,..when Benedict/was Pope,..the Vatican told..the Israeli press that/the Holy Father..would refrain*from visiting Gaza...The word..‘refrain’..was a peculiar one..in the circumstances.”..Setting foot..in Gaza was/as sinful..as sneaking into a brothel,..it seemed.

Israel’s hoodlums/of course..were keen to prevent/him seeing..how the tiny,..overcrowded enclave..had been devastated/16 months earlier by their murderous blitzkrieg,.of Cast Lead....And the,,then/Pope went along with it.

Gaza’s isolated ..nd besieged Catholic community..were none too happy with the Pope’s attitude,..judging by the reaction..of their redoubtable old priest/Father Manuel Mussallam.;/“We will ask him why he came,..what he intends saying..to the Christians,..the Jews,..the Muslims...and why he isn’t coming to Gaza.”

“We’ll tell him..that this is not/the right moment..to come and visit the holy places,..while Jerusalem is occupied,”..he added.

Having decided to go to Palestine,..via Israel,..it was imperative for the Pope to include Gaza..or it would look like he didn’t give a damn..about the appalling persecution in the very land where Christianity was born...He might as well hammer one more nail into Christendom’s coffin.

The last six years have seen things..go from bad to worse – much worse. Palestinians in the Holy Land,..and especially Gaza, need to be shown that the Christian Church cares about them even if nobody else does.

Indeed, has it finally come to.the point where the Pope ought to do the decent thing and boycott Isral and join the BDS movement? Admittedly, ..it’s a tough call given the Catholic Church’s considerable interests out there.

..edited..we..were treated/to..the spectacle of..the Archbishop of Canterbury..joining the Chief Rabbi..on a visit to Auschwitz..to show joint solidarity*..against extreme..hostility and genocide...The Archbishop called it..“a place..of utter profanity” .and spoke/of the collective*corruption..and moral sickness*.that made..that Holocaust possible.

Would..*the pair..show the/same spirit..of
"righteous*solidarity"..by visiting Gaza?

OUG, have not the Americans told us, as well as the Zionists, that the Palestinians are the 'bad guys' in all this. Naturally, you cut off supplies to children, women, old people that's what the 'good guys' do!
Gaza, I hope it reminds the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto of 1942. As for the "Holy Father" to busy hiding the fornicators and pedophiles in his own church to bother "seeing for himself" what the criminals are doing to the innocent Palestinians.

you are a wise man paul
but please see..that pappa..needs to prove
to the in house vermin..inthe holyy/of holy..that he is acting of love
hence we/sent the fatima letters..these should ensure..he has recieved prior revelation..from the mother of jesus HERSELF..also..recall the teachings of pope joan father.

lest we forget..the fate of the inquizitor
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/wsl/wsl11.htm

he shall shortly..be setting..him free
if you get me?

is the world ready..to prove..his way..is over?..[globaly]

please read..the..link..its the basis..of the grand mans plan
see he knows much..too..much..but..he has to be released[his time is over]..now at the day./hour/second..of the saviours birth he WAS released..

to be clear..here/he as passed..past all..that..was fore-written..on..the linked page
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/wsl/wsl11.htm

by his own..means..he has currently..arisen..into the re-incarnation pits..of the lower hell...see the officers fall..he has just a few moments ago..decided he didnt want the brainwashing[9months]..to rebirth as a child[yet he may well find the path weary[that [the messages are confl;icting..freewill must appear tobe free//MUST BE FREE

thing is he emerges at the east gate
out..of the night.,,into the dawn..[as did..the christ*..]

now..wether thats a fable..who is to judge

[freewill is AFTER all sacrosanct..
let those who..believe..have their beliefs..]

regardless
here is where the grand man..[em]..the oppoisite of ]me[be*]..now
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Gone_West.pdf

see page..176..=now*
soon..he finds the libary..by new years night..he will have reached..the hospital*..his stay..there many-be longer..or he may be brief*..we shall see

thing is paul..is the messiah..vengefull..or peacefull
[parts of my words..are in..the lower hell library]..i can feel him reading them..which bits..we wont know..yet*..

there are other libraries..but i think/..he too has thought me insane
he TOO..most/CERTAINLY..will..discard it all..as gibberish

last link..jic[just in case]
http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

that ye may.know...him..if he backtracks
i know he likes to work backwards..so from the pits may join the herd/make the demons do deals..

who..knows..but the world cant go on much further..the way/it is

thing is..for good or bad..
HE WILL..EMERGE>>INto>>the gulag*

this will soon..be a key..text/till that day/he..finally..e-merge
http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

god bless free thinking..
god bless you/paul..i hereby authorize for you to..access my asio files..grayman..will give you the details..[nough said?]

signed..on..behalf of EM*

Paul1405,
Palestinians are not a race of people they are the same genetics as Syrians, Lebanese and other Middle Eastern peoples. Israel can accommodate people from different races as they have done, but they cannot accommodate people with an agenda to physically destroy them.

Travel through that land and you will find Jews and recent indigenous people working happily together. In fact Israel has two politicians sitting in Government who wants the removal of the State of Israel. It is the Muslim extremists and PLO political arm that cause them violent trouble. Travel through Syria, Lebanon and Egypt and see if peace and cooperation is present among diverse cultures.

OF THE BUILDING OF THIS TEMPLE

1. SOLOMON began to build the temple in the fourth year of his reign, on the second month, which the Macedonians call Artemisius, and the Hebrews Jur, five hundred and ninety-two years after the Exodus out of Egypt; but one thousand and twenty years from Abraham's coming out of Mesopotamia into Canaan, and after the deluge one thousand four hundred and forty years; and from Adam, the first man who was created, until Solomon built the temple, there had passed in all three thousand one hundred and two years.

Now that year on which the temple began to be built was already the eleventh year of the reign of Hiram; but from the building of Tyre to the building of the temple, there had passed two hundred and forty years.

2. Now, therefore, the king laid the foundations of the temple very deep in the ground, and the materials were strong stones, and such as would resist the force of time; these were to unite themselves with the earth,

The City of David is a Jewish settlement near the Dung Gate of the Old City. On occupied land, and resisted by the Palestinian neighborhood of Silwan, whose land it is taking.

YOU..who....have adopted..as..a state-symbol
the menorah..(candlebrum).

<<..which is explained..in the Tenach..
(on..the occasion of..a previous return..to the Holy Land).

as,WRITTEN

*"not..with..*armed force*..and..not with power,*....*KEY*
but..*in My spirit..says..the..Lord of Hosts.">>

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176496

Josephus, I hardly find that a very "Christian" attitude to children, women, old people, a non combatant population of 1.7 million people.
"It is the Muslim extremists and PLO political arm that cause them violent trouble." Maybe they are a little bit peeved about being kicked out their homes and into refugee camps by the invading Jews.
Regardless of the above, how do you justify the persecution of 1.7 million people, children etc? Are they all "Muslim extremists", if they are not, then the Jews are doing a good job of making them that way.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israelopt-gaza-power-crisis-has-compounded-blockade-s-assault-human-dignity-2013-11-29

Paul,
If you had traveled in Israel near the borders of Gaza you would know that rockets are fired continuously about 6,000 p/a from Gaza brought in via tunnels from Egypt. Egypt has just also closed the tunnels into Gaza in an attempt to stop the rocket assaults on Israel.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/egypt-tunnel-blockade-takes-toll-on-gaza-business/2013/12/19/930007c2-60f3-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html

Josephus, what you say may well be true, probably is, can you comment on this statement;

“The blockade has collectively punished Gaza’s population in violation of international law. The power plant shutdown has further affected all aspects of daily life, and the Israeli authorities must lift the blockade immediately, starting by allowing urgently needed fuel supplies into the Strip and working with all relevant parties to avert a prolonged humanitarian crisis this winter.”

How do the women and children, old people, babies etc, fit into your take on this "violation of international law" and "humanitarian crisis"

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israelopt-gaza-power-crisis-has-compounded-blockade-s-assault-human-dignity-2013-11-29

http://www.redressonline.com/2013/12/israel-opened-the-gates-to-two-dams-now-gaza-is-sinking/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNTonGIc6hk

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/12/20/another-aipac-bill-designed-to-get-us-into-a-war-with-iran/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/who-owns-your-congressman/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/clear-evidence-the-pentagon-exist-solely-to-war-profiteer-off-the-american-taxpayers/

http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/12/19/all-three-branches-of-govt-agree-nsas-bulk-metadata-collection-doesnt-thwart-terrorism/
http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2013/12/aipacs-exploding-christmas-gift-obama/

http://rt.com/news/guantanamo-torture-sudan-detainee-552/

http://intellihub.com/2013/12/20/data-broker-sells-list-of-rape-victims-names-to-pharmaceutical-companies/?

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/the-legal-systems-role-in-the-disintegration-of-america/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDlH9sV0lHU

http://rss.infowars.com/20131220_Fri_Alex.mp3
http://rss.infowars.com/20131218_Wed_Alex.mp3
http://rss.infowars.com/20131219_Thu_Alex.mp3

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/8915-qatar-is-waiting-for-israeli-and-palestinian-confirmation-to-send-oil-to-gaza-electricity-plant

http://www.rense.com/general84/guess.htm

Josephus, good to see you have seen the light on this issue, and I like your post spot on about The Jews and what they are doing to the Palestinians. I'll post it again in case anyone missed it.

http://www.rense.com/general84/guess.htm

Sorry, I though your were an Israeli apologist.

"Israel wants the Palestinians crushed and disappeared so Israel can expand its territories for its citizens, have better access to the sea for its navy and serve as watchdog for US and Israeli hegemony." A quote from your link.

Paul,
Did you also read the other link. It doesn't give speculative political commentary that Israel wishes to crush Gaza. If you knew what Israel has suffered from Gaza every day, it is perfectly natural they want to starve their supply.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-hits-targets-in-gaza-after-rocket-attack/

http://www.idfblog.com/facts-figures/rocket-attacks-toward-israel/

correcting..links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDlH9sV0lHU

http://rss.infowars.com/20131220_Fri_Alex.mp3
http://rss.infowars.com/20131218_Wed_Alex.mp3
http://rss.infowars.com/20131219_Thu_Alex.mp3

http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/8915-qatar-is-waiting-for-israeli-and-palestinian-confirmation-to-send-oil-to-gaza-electricity-plant

Josephus, I do not deny that there are attacks on Israel coming from Gaza, the things you speak of are most like true, possible exaggerated for propaganda purposes, but essentially true.
But as a professed Christian surly you can see the wrong in what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians. Two wrongs doesn't make a right. From day one the ordinary Palestinian people have been the forgotten people in the whole Middle East War. In war, any war, it's the innocent who suffer as much as anyone, if not more, that is why I oppose all wars, there is no such thing as a just war.
Here is the atheist preaching to the christian.

josephus..interestingly..i..divined..on your name
here is where that ended up
http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/text/josephus/ant8.html

<<..Israel wishes to crush Gaza. If you knew what Israel has suffered from Gaza every day,>>

List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2012
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is a detailed list of Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel in 2012. All of the attacks originated in the Gaza Strip, unless stated otherwise.

In total, an estimated sum of 2,257 rockets had been launched at Israel from Gaza since in 2012.[1][2]>>

now..[in 2013]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2013

none in january
one in feb

but heck do thy own research..facts jo*seph

<<.it is perfectly natural they want to starve their supply.>>

yess egypt has shut its tunnels down
your mates fighjt a dead man

isnt it time to..allow sharon..to die with dignity?
7 years in a coma..is too much
http://io9.com/5979410/after-being-comatose-for-7-years-ariel-sharon-has-significant-brain-activity

the only way..he will wake up
is by this dudes spirit

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/wsl/wsl11.htm

he arrives..into/the gulag..in easter..2014

merry..xmass

what is it about lies that comfort you so?

josephcuss
ijust did the numbers FOR you
[sofar]..this year =49

hardly..one per day..eh?
like everything else..facts refute liars
best you duck..intoya bunker..3ooin..7 days?

thats like the hockey stick graph..ie fear raising DELUSION..from
secularist zion..[the athiests of the star.].not the peace-nicks of the lamp stand

the 'other side of the coin'

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=israeli+incursions+into+gaza

or how about the civilian/dead..36..in gaza[6 were kids]
civilians maTE..HOW MANY DEAD IN..ISRAEL?..1..OR NONE?

JOSEPHUS..dont think..i ..jest
the grand visor..has been released..from his cage..[pit]
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/wsl/wsl11.htm

he is even/now following the fears[and by concentration..of the fears..being gaza..there he shall..emerge..]..likely..eat dung gate

the only doudt..is the timing
and what he sees when..he gets there

its a hell on earth..that will revitalize that older fears..of the insane few..taking out..evil..has ensured..it...[he meets them even as we refute your delu-zion..him and a healthy..radioactive..mate.. just looking..for the right body...and the place..of highest radio-activly.

soon..you learn..dead..only fixated the hate
fo-cussed hate..attracts more hate mate
you aint seen..nuthin..yet

the mess-iha..cometh..with his army..of the dead
to see either heaven..on earth[no mirth]..or bring hell..directly..into..it..

all you can do..is advise nutty yahoo..to set
the prisoners free[and be prepared to host..the lord of hosts.]
and convince..him..there is peace..on earth[despite the vibes received..from..here revealing we lie]..but demons understand lies

but peace means accepting we all/lie
and together..we are greater..than alone

regardless the grand visor..needs a body..
now which body..would has the greater symbolism
you had best hope its still sharon..the peacemaker

Paul,
I had family [brothers children] living in Israel while they did university, some have since moved to America and others to Australia. Peace loving Palestinians happily lived and worked with them in Israel. The radical terrorists caused problems so they were moved out. As I said Israel has two members in their Government who want the removal of Israel; Israel is a democratic State. There are no Israelis in any of the adjoining States. Why? Because they do not accommodate Israel as a State.

Josephus, I'm not sure if you are trying to justify the disgraceful actions of the Democratic Terrorist Government of Israel against innocent children, as these murderers are engaged in the the killing of babies, through their actions. As a professed Christian I'm sure you would adhere to the teaching of Jesus Christ and never support these barbaric Jew murderers.
However, I do find you line of argument strange, to say the least. Your continued reference to "Israel has two members in their Government who want the removal of Israel" What is the relevance of these two, when it comes to the murdering of children? Or, "I had family [brothers children] living in Israel while they did university" that's nice to, but how does that relate to the Jew murders killing children? You seem to be skirting the issue, with irrelevance, and silence on the subject of the illegal blockade.

I did ask you to comment on;

“The blockade has collectively punished Gaza’s population in violation of international law. The power plant shutdown has further affected all aspects of daily life, and the Israeli authorities must lift the blockade immediately, starting by allowing urgently needed fuel supplies into the Strip and working with all relevant parties to avert a prolonged humanitarian crisis this winter.”

How do the women and children, old people, babies etc, fit into your take on this "violation of international law" and "humanitarian crisis"

So far all your comment has been irrelevant to the above. The two "provocateurs" in the Jew Government, and your relatives once studying at Jew university, your lack of condemnation of Jew terrorism is interesting. Is that the Christian attitude? I don't think so!

Paul,
Believe the UN propaganda if you must, I have contacts on the ground who care equally for all who suffer. However you mention nothing about those Israelis killed and maimed by rockets fired from Gaza. You are a one eyed terrorist supporter bigot.

this link bears good fruit
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=israel+war+dead+2013&

but see also the offered [properly spelled]..link

anyhow..i..have
as you/may know..received..control..over my..computer back
to allow for more detail..

peace..should be declared[decreed]..shortly
now is the time..to talk..revealyouir grievences
hrh..is listening

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6152#178808

are you..men enough for peace?
are you woman..enough..to forbid..thy children..to/die in ANY war?

are you/humane enough..to see without fear?

all we are saying..is give peace a chance
no make peace go..viral

[your life /your very living..depends on this our/final..skirmish]

so..there..we go..paul..how do we get..the right twelve..of the fathers many messengers..to join in..we got the queen giving up pope-hood..[conditionally..[maybe]...to george..we got the cathoholic pope..[maybe]..and i was hoping that gratitude could advize..the muslim/elders..wehave the dali lambaarda..pakies/india..indonesia

anyhow paul..your the exprert..in these matters
which 12 heads?..the govt 12 is easy..they [picked themselves by their works

how to..re-unite the fathers dived church/state
we exclude..non..patriarchal?..no

should be guides by spirit
i know this god stuff seems foolish to you..but still you/got great knowings..we need an atheist pope there too[who..do you suggest..cani leave..it up/to you?

"Israelis killed and maimed by rockets fired from Gaza." Josephus this "one eyed terrorist supporter bigot", condemns those that would kill innocent Israelis just as I condemn those that would kill innocent Palestinians. One does not justify the other.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/53912415#53912415
http://www.news.va/en/source/vatican-va
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/vatican/vatican.htm

pre-paired
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1305361.htm

VATICAN CITY..(CNS]..by/Seeing a protest sign..in St. Peter's Square that read.."The poor cannot wait,"..Pope Francis urged individuals and government leaders..to recognize the pain,..struggles..and rights of REFUSgee/families..like Jesus, Mary and Joseph..who do not have a home.

Pope Francis read..the sign out loud Dec. 22..after reciting the midday Angelus prayer from the window of the apostolic palace.

"It's beautiful,"..he said.

"It makes me think..*/how Jesus was born/in a stall,..not a house. And reading that sign..I think today..[22/12]..of all the families without homes,..either because they never had one..or because they lost their home..for some*..reason.

"A family..and a home go together,"..the pope said.

"It's very difficult..to keep a family going..without a home to live in...During these Christmas days,..I ask everyone --individuals, social agencies,..authorities --to do everything possible so that every family..can have a home."

The sign was carried by members..of a loose coalition of protesters who had been demonstrating..across Italy since early December...Known as the "pitchfork movement,"..it included farmers, truckers and families protesting taxes..and government austerity programs.

Pope Francis praised/social involvement,..but he insisted that citizens must resist..the temptation..of violence and defend their rights through dialogue.

In his main Angelus address,..Pope Francis focused on the Gospel's description..of Joseph finding out..that Mary was expecting a child and facing a struggle..between his love for her..and his obedience to God's law,./which prescribed shunning her because they were not married.

"This brief phrase describes a real and true interior drama, if we consider how much Joseph loved Mary," the pope said, adding that it must have been like the internal struggle of Abraham when God told him to sacrifice his only son Isaac.

"But, as he did with Abraham, the Lord intervenes; he found the faith he was looking for and opens a different path, a path of love and happiness," the pope said.

Pope Francis prayed that Christians would learn to entrust themselves fully to God like Mary did and that, like Joseph, they would "prefer to believe the Lord rather than listening to the voices of doubt and human pride."

END

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-contemplate-st-josephs-greatness-of-soul/

lest we forget...my only mate...who comforts me
http://rss.infowars.com/20131224_Tue_Alex.mp3

Come, they told me pappa-rum pum pum pum
A newborn King to see..papa-rum pum pum pum

Our fine est gifts..we bring pa-rum pum pum pum
To lay before the..new born thing/King pa-rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum, Rum pum pum pum.

So to honor Him pa-run pum pum pum
When we come..for him ratta tat tat
ratter tut.ratter tut tut

Little Baby..looks so.oh..fore lorne..pa-pa-pah rup
ter pa rum pum pum pum..righiously..they come..pum per pum puluder pumpum..run/home.

I am a poor boy too pa-rum pum pum pum
That's fit to give our King pa-rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum, Rum pum pum pum.

Shall I play for you..pa-rum pum pum pum
On my drum?

Mary nodded..pa-rum pum pum pum
The Ox..and Lamb..kept time pa-rum pum pum pum

I played my drum for Him pa-rum pum pum pum
I played my best for Him pa-rum pum pum pum

Rum pum pum pum, Rum pum pum pum.
put some more ruminthis one
lets just have fun
woks..is dun

core rupt the pun pun
love everyone
n1sun

Then He smiled at
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/so-much-joy-michelle-obama-reads-twas-the-night-before-christmas-with-a-muppet/politics/2013/12/08/79884

ahhh,men
patriarchy=overt+over

welcome inthe dawn..of matriarchal king dum
poor more rum..number one son..this time near dun
number one sun
ana is one
dun
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http://www.news.va/en/news/like-one-of-us

We want to be..proud of the pope.
http://www.radiovaticana.va/player/index_fb.asp?language=en&visualizzazione=VaticanTic&Tic=VA_3BRJR8GT

“What you’re seeing..is a lot of pent-up frustration..among a lot of Catholics..who instinctively want to stand by the pope,..want to promote the pope,..but felt somewhat ambivalent about doing so..with his two predecessors../.Now they have a pope that they believe represents..a Biblically robust representation of Christianity,..and they’re excited about that.”

Spiritual Reflection
The Naivitivity..of the Lord
reflecto..Benedict XVI,..Urbi Et Orbi Message,..Christmas 2010

“The Word became flesh”.

Before this revelation..we once more wonder:..how can this be? The Word.and the flesh are mutually opposed realities;.[contract/act].how can the eternal..and almighty lord become,,seen..by a frail and mortal man?

There is only one answer:..gods will=Love.

Those who love..all..desire to share with their beloved,..they want to be one/with the lover..of the..beloved,..and Sacred Scripture shows us..the great love story of God..for his creation which culminated in Jesus Christ...works..put..into words[…]

God is Love...[living/loving/love life..In himself/of himself..he is communion,..Unity in..holy-Trinity,..and all his words..and works are directed to communion.[between..t6hat above/with that..below/within

The Incarnation..[Emmanuel/god with-in]..is the culmination of creation...When Jesus,..the Son of God.[incarnate],..was formed in the womb of Mary…..evolved/creation..reached its high point...The ordering principle of the uni-verse,..the Logos,..began to exist in the world,..in a certain time and space.[…]..and/the christian/room..in the fathers house was opened

In the night..of the world..ofthe fathers divided house..a new light was kindled,..one which lets itself..be seen by the simple eyes of faith...by works[inter/active..love of neighbour..in/of the truth

in some sense..it would impose/itself..for the se4rvice..of other..by its own..freewilled/power...But if Truth is Love,..[what is love undelivered..it calls for faith,..works..for the “yes” of our hearts...to become..seen.

http://www.news.va/en/spiritual_reflections/

Non-Catholics are paying attention,..too...A November survey found “Pope Francis”..was the most talked-about proper*/name..on the English language Internet..in 2013. In December,..Time magazine named him “person of the year.”

The world seems suddenly to be listening..for all the right reasons, and the popular attraction..has high-profile atheists concerned.

“He’s obviously a nice man,..therefore a dangerous man,”..leading evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins..told fellow atheist Bill Maher in late October...

“We don’t want nice men in the Vatican.”

does dorkins speak for thee?
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6152#178808

let the inquisition/begin
where..are we..in relation..to revelations..?

let it snow..[the sign/of the times]
http://biblehub.com/revelation/20-3.htm
what links the cold spell..in the north?

A Wanderer in the Sprit Lands, by Franchezzo
(A. Farnese), [1896], at sacred-texts.com
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Wanderer_a4.pdf

CHAPTER IX.--The Frozen Land--The Caverns of Slumber.
I was next sent to visit what will indeed seem a strange country to exist in the spirit world. The Land of Ice and Snow--the Frozen Land--in which lived all those who had been cold and selfishly calculating in their earthly lives.

Those who had crushed out and chilled and frozen from their own lives and the lives of others, all those warm sweet impulses and affections which make the life of heart and soul. Love had been so crushed and killed by them that its sun could not shine where they were, and only the frost of life remained.

Great statesmen were amongst those whom I saw dwelling in this land, but they were those who had not loved their country nor sought its good. Only their own ambitions, their own aggrandizement had been their aim, and to me they now appeared to dwell in great palaces of ice and on the lofty frozen pinnacles of their own ambitions.

Others more humble and in different paths in life I saw, but all alike were chilled and frozen by the awful coldness and barrenness of a life from which all warmth, all passion, was shut out.

I had learned the evils of an excess of emotion and of passion, now I saw the evils of their entire absence. Thank God this land had far fewer inhabitants than the other, for terrible as are the effects of mis-used love, they are not so hard to overcome as the absence of all the tender feelings of the human heart.

Consenting sentient entities have the natural freedom & rights to do with their property, bodies and minds what they will, without private or public intervention.

The Moral Argument

The consenting/voluntary principle assures us that while we may have the possibility of choosing the worst, we also have the possibility of choosing the best. It provides us the opportunity to make things better, though it doesn’t guarantee results. While it dictates that we do not force our idea of “better” on someone else, it protects us from having someone else’s idea of “better” imposed on us by force. The use of coercion to compel virtue eliminates its possibility, for to be moral, an act must be uncoerced. If a person is compelled to act in a certain way (or threatened with government sanctions), there is nothing virtuous about his or her behavior. Freedom of choice is a necessary ingredient for the achievement of virtue. Whenever there is a chance for the good life, the risk of a bad one must also be accepted.
aware that there is also something else which stimulates our apathy in this respect. He signified the importance of leisure time for our own personal well being as well as for the well being of the community as a whole – it creates so to speak the possibility to make well informed decisions. Currently our leisure time is under assault. Thirty years of income stagnation in the midst of rising prices – people have to struggle to earn a living – meant that for most of us there is less time for critical thought.

But it has even been made harder to reflect on important issues since politicians and opinions leaders use marketing tools in order to seduce. Remember that soon after the 2008 banking bailout the discussion was reframed in such a way that government spending instead of the unregulated financial sector itself, was the root cause of all ‘evil’ – this message was repeated like a commercial, over and over again.

.This technique of repetition effectively neutralizes critical thinking. Hence, Nazi propagandist, Joseph Goebels, was on to something when he famously stated: ,,If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

Long after Goebbels died, psychologists experimentally discovered that it is a natural tendency of human beings to react more receptive to whatever kind of message the more they are exposed to it. They call this ,,the law of mere exposure”. We should question ourselves if this habit is healthy for our general welfare.Furthermore, psychologists discovered that our ability to think critically is severely limited when we act under stress. Frightened people tend to perceive reality through a prism of simple right and wrong answers, leaving the complexities aside. Scared, we are easily fooled. Politicians and corporations can’t resist the temptation to manipulate this animal instinct – like when we started a war without having been shown any serious proof of its legitimacy.

One could expect that the mainstream media in its role as guard dog was attacking those politicians that create black & white polemics. However, currently most (privately owned) media echo the voice of corporations, which these days doesn’t differ much in substance from that of the government. As a result alternative and more nuanced voices are underrepresented in cultural discourse which, again, makes it harder to produce well informed decisions.

And, when considering the information that is filtered thru to a broad audience – one also notes the slow, but steady disappearing of the separation line between news media and entertainment. American academic Daniel Hallin argues that the average time for sound bites politicians are given in media performances has shrunk from forty seconds in the 1960s to ten seconds in 1988.

.Hallin’s crucial point is that he believes that the biggest victim of this still on going process is the careful scrutinizing of social problems. This results in so called ‘horse race’ news – news about politics presented as a game of ,,who’s the most witty” in which politicians try to be popular instead of reasonable. The blur of catchy one-liners reaching the audience creates a further alienation from reality.

Taken together an assault on leisure, repetition of information, fear policies and the transformation of our media outlets from guard dogs to lap dogs create a situation wherein our spirit for the common good slowly dissolves into an ocean of noise, distraction and misinformation.

Meanwhile, the social environment which politicians, corporations and media gurus are constructing produces anxieties and illusions in order to make profits or political gains. Together these social forces act as a gravitational pull for government and corporate empowerment.....That is to say, they pull away strength from the people to participate in the maintenance of a mentally healthy, meaningful democratic environment.

Thomas Jefferson once argued that a government should fear the power of the people. In that respect the apathy with which the audience in general responds to the revelations of Snowden is a cynical demonstration of our time frame. Although, however little, a message this confronting does still stir society a tiny bit. We are not completely brain-dead – and there is some hope in that.

Probably the best question contemporary Westerners can ask themselves is: will today’s power structure be able to obscure these clear violations of human civil rights or is this message too loud to ignore?

Or to say it more bluntly than that: will there be a transition to a meaningful democracy in the West or to an advanced form of authoritarianism?Politicians on both sides of the Atlantic who construct an image of toughness – tough on crime, on terrorism, on humanistic-inspired idealism etc. – are tapping into a sensitive spot that blocks critical thought among the public.

.Obama‘s brute and harsh reaction on Edward Snowden‘s revelations is just another example. Somehow it seems like ,,We, the people…” lost track of ourselves. Four main reasons why we abandon our once hard fought civil rights.

Many countries in the West, like Britain, France, Spain the US and the Netherlands have experienced in recent years an exponential increase in technological surveillance and a resolute decline in parliamentary and judicial control over state police and secret service. Issues like the ban on torture, the possibility of detention without charge, privacy and freedom of speech were in the public debate reframed in favour of state control. And everybody accepted it. To be fair, there was some opposition – but it lacked intensity...Why is this happening?

To give an example, under former British Prime Minister Tony Blair 45 criminal laws were approved creating 3000 new criminal offences. British writer John Kampfer argues that in the past ten years more criminal offences were made in his country than in a hundred years before. All this was legitimized by the idea that a ‘terroristic’ virus attacked Western civilization. Of course, there is some truth in it – but these risks were grossly exaggerated. Still, we fearfully went along with the proposed measures.

This cultural shift towards perhaps a more authoritarian future for the West is no coincidence of nature. It is manmade. If the opportunity is there, top down induced shifts happen only if politicians, corporations, media pundits and other cultural icons are able to find the right symbols and techniques to get a new message across.>>>> HK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbG3G1EPPUI Mark Howitt takes an investigative look into the events and controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting which happened on December 14th 2012 in Newtown Connecticut. This documentary explores several aspects and claims of details surrounding the event and is an attempt to shed some light and provide logical answers to the many questions that remain as to what happened in Newtown.

.Using rare news and article clips, testimonies, police audio analysis and several perspectives, it is quite clear that we are not being told the truth about what really happened. Was there others involved in the crime? Why have authorities and media provided abundant amounts of misleading information, changing the official narrative on countless occasions? These questions are being asked by a large amount of people in the public and the case is looked at in great detail to try and make sense of things and bring closure to much of the controversy in what is perhaps the biggest conspiracy since JFK....Topics discussed include identities of multiple suspects, police audio analysis, witness testimonies, media coverage, the Lanza family, gun ban issue, intelligence agencies, examples of covert operations, project longevity, project mockingbird, fast and furious, crisis actor claims, prior drills, living victims, FEMA, advanced knowledge of attack, motive of crime, and several other aspects and anomalies.

In Judaism, the day of judgment happens every year on Rosh HaShana, therefore the belief in a last day of judgment for all mankind is disputed. Some Rabbis hold that there will be such a day following the resurrection of the dead. Others hold that there is no need for that because of Rosh HaShana. While yet others hold that this accounting and judgment happens when one dies. Yet others hold that the last judgment only applies to the gentile nations and not the Jewish peopleQLLHGHGGFFZZXCXCXCXCBBMM,,http://www.stevequayle.com/

he was on alex jones on tuesday
http://rss.infowars.com/20131231_Tue_Alex.mp3 http://books.google.com.au/books?id=Gd3eQKgM5uoC&pg=PA158&lpg=PA158&dq=omans+second+temple+destruction&source=bl&ots=28NNqpFlra&sig=ydQRL8vsrJC8aunTbEDws-olDI4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4LLEUrGCObCdiAfixYDgDA&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=omans%20second%20temple%20destruction&f=false
Chabad's traditional belief in bodily resurrection in the Messianic era:Z ...none would dispute that a man's good acts live on as an eternal legacy after him, which is why Judaism has always emphasized the importance of positive action...just as the Talmud says the patriarch Jacob never died because his children continue the tradition he taught them, the same can be said of Martin Luther King Jr., whose commitment to racial harmony we continue to embrace, or of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, whose pioneering work in returning Jews to their heritage continues to influence every strand of world Jewry.[42]

In Conservative Judaism

.Conservative Judaism has generally retained the tenet of the bodily resurrection of the dead, including traditional references to it in the liturgy. However, many Conservative Jews interpret the tenet metaphorically rather than literally.[39] Conservative Judaism both affirms belief in the world beyond (as referenced in the Amidah and Maimonides' Thirteen Precepts of Faith) while recognizing that human understanding is limited and we cannot know exactly what the world beyond consists of.[40]
Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism

Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism have altered traditional references to the resurrection of the dead ("who gives life to the dead") to refer to "who gives life to all". Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism affirm belief in the afterlife, though they downplay the theological implications in favor of emphasizing the importance of the "here and now," as opposed to reward and punishment. Rabbi Laura Novak Winer, a member of the Union for Reform Judaism, explains the Reform attitude towards the afterlife by quoting Abraham Joshua Heschel:

True, this world is only a 'vestibule to the world to come,' where we must prepare ourselves before we enter the 'banquet hall.' Yet in the eyes of God, the endeavor and the participation are greater than the achievement and perfection.[41]

Ask the Rabbis" forum: "Belief in the afterlife - a world to come in which the righteous get their true reward and the wicked get their deserved comeuppance - is a central teaching of traditional Judaism. This belief stems from the conviction that a loving God would not allow injustice to win.

When the facts of life did not fit the Bible's emphasis on reward and punishment in the here and now, this faith in the afterlife was emphasized. In the Middle Ages, when Jews suffered so much while enemies ruled the world, the stress on the world to come grew stronger. Some religious teachers taught that this life is "unimportant," and that one should live only to be worthy of eternal bliss. This view spilled over into asceticism and less respect for the body and material activity.

Early modernizers reversed direction.

.They validated Judaism and dismissed Christianity by insisting that Judaism is interested only in doing well in earthly life. Christianity was criticized as otherworldly, repressive and dreaming only of getting to heaven. It was described as cruel for condemning people to eternal damnation..This modern one-sided emphasis on mortal life robbed Jews of the profound consolation of eternal life and justice for all who suffered unjustly and innocently.

What is needed is the classical Jewish ability to hold both sides of the tension. Such Judaism would inspire people to find God in the secular, to unite body and soul, to work for tkkun olam (repairing the world) in the here and now..At the same time, it would uphold the reality of the spirit and the immortality of the soul. This faith offers the consolation of a final reunion - with those we have loved and lost with the El Maleh Rachamim, the Infinite God of Compassion.

The first thing a pilgrim would do would be to approach the public entrance on the south side of the Temple Mount complex. He would check his animal,[clarification needed] then visit a mikveh, where he would ritually cleanse and purify himself. The pilgrim would then retrieve his sacrificial animal, and head to the Huldah gates. After ascending a staircase three stories in height, and passing through the gate, the pilgrim would find himself in the "Court of the Gentiles."
Court of the Gentiles...Commoners had entered through the still-extant, but now plugged, gates on the southern side which led through beautiful colonnades to the top of the platform. One of these colonnades is still extant and reachable through the Temple Mount. The Southern wall was designed as a grand entrance..Recent archeological digs have found thousands of mikvehs (ceremonial bathtubs) for the ritual purification of the worshipers, as well as a grand stairway leading to the now blocked entrance. Inside the walls, the platform was supported by a series of vaulted archways, now called Solomon's Stables, which still exist and whose current renovation by the Waqf is extremely controversial. .
The Messiah[edit]
Main article:.Jewish messianism

.The Hebrew word mashiach (or moshiach) refers to the Jewish idea of the Messiah. Like the English word messiah, mashiach means anointed.[3]

The Jewish Messiah refers to a human leader, physically descended from the Davidic line, who will rule and unite the people of Israel[4] and will usher in the Messianic Age[5] of global and universal peace. While the name of Jewish Messiah is considered to be one of the things that precede creation,[6] he is neither considered divine nor the return of Jesus, in contrast to Christianity.

In biblical times the title mashiach was awarded to someone in a high position of nobility and greatness...It is a reference to the Jewish leader and king that will redeem Israel in the end of days and usher in a messianic era of peace and prosperity for both the living and deceased.[3]
In the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible)[edit]

Most textual requirements concerning the Messiah and his reign are in the Book of Isaiah, although aspects are mentioned in other prophets as well.

* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12, Zechariah 10:6)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness,..and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* The dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The house of David shall be as God (Zechariah 12:8)[7]
* God will seek to destroy all the nations that go against Jerusalem (Zechariah 12:9, Isaiah 60:12)
* Israel and Judah will be made into one nation again (Zechariah 11:12-14, Ezekiel 37:16-22)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 53:7)