daggett,

I have just checked the election results for Mt Coot-Tha, here: http://virtualtallyroom.ecq.qld.gov.au/elections/state/state2009/results/district56.html

Under the heading 'District Profile', the page at the time I viewed it contained the following:

" Electors at Close of Roll: 29,060
Last Updated Date/Time: 22/03/2009 01:19:34 PM
Percentage of Roll Counted: 67.40%"

Doubtless the last figure will change as the page is updated. However, I would draw your attention to the fact that the expression 'Percentage of Roll Counted' is utterly meaningless, if not downright misleading.

The real figure of interest is that for the total numbers of votes CLAIMED for the election. This figure is known or knowable with relative finality as of the last polling place acquittal on election night. The total number of pre-poll votes claimed is known with certainty at close of business on the Friday. Likewise the total number of postal votes applied for is known with certainty at this time. The absentee vote claims for a particular District may not be known with certainty as at the last acquittal in a polling place on election night, but the statewide aggregate of absentee claims should be knowable.

I cannot see where the public is being given this information in a timely fashion. The withholding of it leaves the way open to the concealment of 'adjustments' to electoral results that may have no proper basis in law.

As a matter of interest, I believe I saw some transient indications of more vote claims having been made in some Divisions in the 2007 Federal elections than there were enrollments recorded. In those elections the figure withheld from timely public view was the extent of the informal vote in the ordinary vote counted on election night. That, combined with strange changes in the accounting for the declaration vote claim figures, figures that should have been set in concrete by the polling place acquittal times on election night, to my mind left certain results potentially subject to having been improperly manipulated.

Voter turnout?

FG, your point about the failure of the Electoral Commission of Queensland to disclose the numbers of votes CLAIMED for the election at the time of the close of polls is interesting. I would be interested to know how the ECQ would respond to this.

Nevertheless, even so, I am not sure if there would be much scope to use this to rig the elections. It seems to me that the elections were rigged to a far greater extent than would have been possible by playing with absentee votes and pre-poll votes, by the simple media misreporting and censorship, massive donations to the major pro-big-business parties and Anna Bligh's blatant abuse of her incumbent position.

(Perhaps we should continue this elsewhere. I have certainly a lot more to say.)

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I heard Kevin Rudd repeat the Big Lie of September 11 today on ABC radio's "The World Today" in order to justify Australia's continued role in Afghanistan(1). He stated that he "can't get out of his mind" the images collapsing on 11 September 2001. It was therefore necessary to stay in Afghanistan to prevent terrorists from using Afghanistan as a safe haven to launch further such attacks.

Of course, as shown above, if Kevin Rudd had looked carefully at those images, he would have grasped the physical impossibility of the US Government explanation for the collapses.

His justification for the intervention is a lie on another level also, because, as we know, the Taliban approached the US Government after the September 11 attacks in order to offer to them to hand over Osama bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders, but this offer was not taken up.

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1. Frankly, I am neither enthusiastic about Australia withdrawing nor about Australia staying there, given that the former would result in the Taliban coming to power again, but, on balance, given that the war seems unwinnable and based on a lie, the former is the significantly lesser of the two evils, IMO.

The elections were rigged?
How did you do James?
You didn't even get your deposit back did you?

Bugsy, of course the elections were rigged. If the illuminati are capable of bringing down the twin towers and making it look like a terrorist attack without anyone noticing, rigging a minor election in Queensland should be a walk in the park.

Have you learned nothing from this thread?

I did notice from Forrest's link that the Daylight Savings candidate did quite well by comparison. Seems the illumnati have not yet discovered the threat of daylight savings.

Damn right the election was rigged!

According to the latest ECQ tally, James secured 129 votes (0.60%).

I reckon that without the massive Bligh conspiracy entailing "playing with absentee votes and pre-poll votes, ...simple media misreporting and censorship, massive donations to the major pro-big-business parties and Anna Bligh's blatant abuse of her incumbent position", James would've got at least 130 votes (0.60%).

There should be an exhaustive investigation into this conspiracy, hopefully with lots of YouTube evidence.

Thanks, Bugsy, Agronomist and Christopher for having confirmed that I was right when I wrote to Paul:

"In fact, it seems evident to me that quite a few others are watching this forum. This would include other fellow deniers who have already run away with their tails between their legs, waiting for a suitable moment in which they can redeem their wounded pride." (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166&page=64#52443)

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In fact, I had anticipated a result that low. At the outset, there was no guarantee that I would get any substantial media coverage or that everything else would go right.

As a consequence, few voters would have known anything about me by their time they cast their ballots, in spite of my best efforts.

It wasn't only myself that suffered blatant censorship and bias. The same happened to nearly all independents and nearly all Greens. One Green candidate commented, "I have had more media in an opposition movement in a police state."

I should also point out that I did this largely on my own, with occasional help from others including one member of the Greens. I don't know how many other candidates had to do that.

Of course, I hope that this is the last time that that proves necessary. But whether or not it does proves necessary, I hope I won't allow myself be deterred by the prospect of a poor result or ridicule.

In spite of the results, I still believe that the reasons for standing were sound and I challenge anyone here to tell me why they were not, for example, by posting comments to:

http://candobetter.org/QldElections
http://candobetter.org/QldElections/MountCoot-tha

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Bugsy, were you intending to respond to these posts: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166&page=79#57700 http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166&page=79#57897

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Agronomist, were you intending to respond to these post: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166&page=56#51616

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Christopher, are you going to answer my question:

"Did you just make those figures up, CJM, or did you arrive at them through some objective process, presumably entailing, on your part, comprehension of the arguments put?" at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166&page=45#49470

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As I said, I thought it would have been a fairly straightforward question even for you to answer.