Bugsy, I thought I read back on page 4 or 5 that you weren't going to contribute anymore in this thread?
If there was a possibility of complicity by sectors other than the alleged Saudi / UAE "hijackers", which if you read BOTH sides of the argument there seems to be, then this is a most important subject, to be discussed and investigated.
Any one who says one side has "been completely debunked" needs a self-inflicted slap in the face, cheers mark

Due to some sort of a glitch with OLO software, it has proven difficult to monitor this thread. Something is wrong with the index display preferences. If you attempt to bring up, say, 20 topics, and then select 'last post' order, the display reverts to the default five topics in order of publication.

I had to reach the thread via the 'search' button, using the terms '9/11 Truth'.

It would be a pity if the thread was to become archived while difficult to monitor.

It is interesting to note that the topic 'Obama seeks to manipulate electoral boundaries' started by KMB has only attracted five posts. I think the opening post may have been a troll. Interestingly enough jpw 2040 considers KMB to have been trolling on the 'Diverse sexuality and selective compassion' thread.

It seems KMB had no knowledge to impart re rorting of US elections.

Thanks for your concern about this thread closing, Forrest.

I had intended to keep it going, by posting every once in a while.

Don't you get e-mail alerts for this thread?

Why not just bookmark page 80 of this thread as I have done (i.e. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166&page=80)

I couldn't find the 'Obama seeks to manipulate electoral boundaries' discussion. Could you supply the link? (But I might not be able to look at it for quite a few more days.)

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The other day I heard US Vice President Joe Biden repeat the 9/11 Big Lie in order to justify the escalation of the war in Afghanistan and the continuation of the "war on terror", so discussion on this topic is still as necessary as ever.

daggett,

Here is the link to the topic 'Obama seeks to manipulate electoral boundaries': http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2533

I have been a little concerned that the G.W.Bush Administration has been viewed in different places throughout this thread as being the authors of electoral improprieties instead of being seen as being the creatures of electoral improprieties. In my view the weakening of electoral administration, perhaps best epitomised by the blind acceptance of electronic voting and vote counting as being in some way safe, and as well appropriately satirised by the infamous 'Diebold Variations', had to precede what you regard as being a questionably properly elected Administration.

Going back to the events of 9/11, I must admit the impression I gained from the footage of George Bush when he was first learning of the aircraft suicide attacks was that of 'a deer caught in the headlights'. If it is correct that 9/11 should be viewed as a failed coup d'etat, might it not have been part of the plan that, in addition to an attack upon the Capitol taking out much of the Legislature, an attempt may have been intended upon the President himself? It has been remarked upon that little concern seemed to be shown in the presidential entourage as to the safety of the President at that critical time. Perhaps that had been orchestrated to be so by someone other than Bush.

Perhaps some thought should be given to what would have likely happened in the US had the Legislature been crippled and the President been taken out on the same day.

That's an interesting theory, FG, and I wouldn't entirely rule it out.

However, the fact that George Bush let it slip later that he witnessed Flight 11 hit the North Tower seems to make it unlikely that George Bush would not have had prior knowledge, whether or not his own assassination was part of the plan.

Why would he have let slip such a damning admission if he truly has not witnessed, before he went to meet those school children, that first impact that no-one else saw on TV until the following day?

I think the reason Bush acted like a 'deer caught in the headlights' was that he simply had no alternative. If he had acted like a leader in command of the situation, then he would have naturally been expected to do something about the flight 77 then headed towards the Pentagon and flight 93 then headed towards the Capitol building.

In such circumstances, his inaction would have seemed even more suspicious than it actually did.

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This online petition is being submitted to you in support of mercy and requesting immediate Parole for Robert Wideman, AP 3468, SCI Pittsburgh. Mr. Wideman has killed NO ONE, yet is still in prison, after 33 years. Even Judge James McGregor apologized to Mr. Wideman in open court for his being in prison so long because of a Wrongful Conviction. The State's Chief Medical Examiner, Cyril Wrecht, also testified (in 1998-Evidentary Hearing) that if the true facts of this case had been known at the time of Robert Wideman's sentencing, he would have testified very differently, alerting the jury that Mr. Wideman's actions WERE NOT the cause of death of Nicky Morena on that cold November night in 1975.
Mr. Wideman is a changed man, indeed a reformed man who deserves to be released. Robert Wideman's accomplishments since being incarcerated have been numerous. Besides being the co-author of Brothers & Keepers (written with his brother, author John Edgar Wideman), Mr. Wideman has also been a Keynote Speaker, along with then Pennsylvania Prison Commisoner David Owens and John Edgar Wideman, at the Prison Lifer's Society Conference at LaSalle University (and he attended without restraints); Robert was also the leader, along with Pittsburgh Police Officer Tom Harris and SCIP employee Carla Broughton, of a Troubled Youths Program in which Mr. Wideman would speak to and dissuade troubled youth from a life of crime (applauded by the Pittsburgh Press); he has obtained an Associates Degree from Allegheny Community College in Structural & Mechanical Drafting; a Diploma from Garfield Business Institute in Computer & Communications for Small Business, appeared in a Television Commercial for former Pennsylvania Governor Thorburg, and has also appeared in several Media outlets including Time Magazine, People Magazine, 60 Minutes, Good Morning America, The Today Show, The Boston Globe, and more.

Enough is Enough!