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The population problem : Comments

By Michael Lardelli, published 6/3/2009

Population growth needs to be recognised as the key driver of our environmental difficulties.

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Both the Coalition and the ALP are immigration junkies who have no business appearing to be concerned about climate change, the damn hypocrites!

There are too many people in the world, and there are too many people in Australia. Taxing people to cut CO2 while bringing more people here is the most ludicrous, anti-Australian thing ever perpetrated on us by both Coalition and Labor Governments; and the also rans like the Greens keep very quiet about population numbers these days.

From the immigrantsí point of view, they will be starting to ask why they were encouraged to come here when they are now the first to lose their jobs as the global financial stuff up takes hold, and jobs are now being lost in Australia. Most of them are employed in low skilled work: the first to be affected by recession.

Immigrants are the ones whose jobs the current government claims to be attempting to save are going, when we didnít need them or the manufacturing industries, which will inevitably end up in China anyway, in the first place. Unemployed or not, they are here to stay, consuming natural resources, polluting and straining inadequate infrastructure.

The authorís comparison of people with the lower orders of animals is spot on. People are either too stupid or simply donít care about the effects of over-population on themselves; even though we are never short of TV images and stories of what is happening in other over-populated countries.

Australians should be enraged to the point of revolution over what their politicians are doing to this country through immigration mania. But, even the Greens have dropped the only good policy they ever had, according to the author who is a member. This just shows that we cannot rely on any brand of politics to do the right thing. They are all cynical, self-serving bastards who will push the country go down the drain for their own warped ideologies.
Posted by Leigh, Friday, 6 March 2009 10:14:48 AM
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Leigh, it's not often I agree with your comments, but this is certainly one of those times.

Unless we can learn the difference between refugees and immigrants, the Left won't support limiting population.

Unless we can get the Right to recognise that you cannot have an economy separate from the environment, then the Coalition (and Labor Right) won't support limiting population.

And, until we can dump the religious fundies (including Pope Benny) we won't be able to get real programs in developing countries for effective birth control.

All of those vested interests work in concert with the developer lobby to strangle any real debate on a sustainable population for Australia, let alone the world.

Jim
Posted by jimoctec, Friday, 6 March 2009 10:36:55 AM
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This article, like a number of others I have read on this issue, has no real substance. If population is a problem then how do you control it in Australia? Take the Chinese one-child per family approach? Limit immigration? I would be interested to see (from a safe distance) the author make practical suggestions rather than tell us, yet again, that population is a problem.

Then again, much of the supposed effects of population could be done away with by, say, a comprehensive nuclear reactor building program (forget renewables) and a substantial reduction in the agricultural sector (farming actually puts more strain on the environment than the major cities). Politically impractical? Very likely. but if you're crazy enough to suggests slashing immigration intakes than getting a few nuclear reactors built should be a snap.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Friday, 6 March 2009 11:39:00 AM
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Curmudgeon, please crawl back into your cave and stay there. How do you expect to feed the ever increasing population if you cut back on farming activities? As the farming sector currently stands, a reduction of output seems inevitable. One only has to fly across northern Victoria and Central and Southern New South Wales to see what the effects of the current prolonged drought are having on agriculture. If we are having trouble feeding out comparatively small population, how do you think that South East Asia is going to withstand the reduction in flows in the rivers which rely on the ever diminishing glaciers of the Himalayas.

History is bound to be repeated on a massive scale, never before seen on this earth, even if climate change turns out to be a furphy. It is too late even now to convince the governments of the world that population control should have been seriously undertaken years ago.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Friday, 6 March 2009 11:57:09 AM
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Kevster here ...

The Labor party needs new immigrant blood and their '10% GST on everything' to maintain rigid power over the states and this nation.

You don't want Howard back do youse?

Get with the program and accept the lowering of your living standards. Labor is here to stay forever. 3 cheers for immigration!

And don't worry about the environment. When we reach 30 million people at the end of my third term we will have enough GST collected to buy a new Environment.

But you lot don't need to see pristine environments anyway. Our Labor Developers and their juicy political sub-rosa donations will serve Labor well. 30 million people living in sardine cans with pretty granite benchtops and paying GST, rates and other taxes and riding pushbikes. Labor's got ya covered. And don't worry about hospital waiting lists. We will replace deaduns with new fresh GST paying migrants so no one will notice a few missing sickos or the odd baby down the toilet.

Vote Labor for stronger ECONOMIC GROWTH and let me be your God.

Kevster.

PS Anyone complaining about immigration or its relentless damage to Australia's environment will henceforth be regarded as criminally racist. And anyone postulating that the billions of extra litres of immigrant poop entering coastal ocean currents kills heat absorbing ecosystems, changing the hydrological cycle in favour of bushfire to the South and cyclonic floods to the North will be eliminated. We know where youse lives!
Posted by KAEP, Friday, 6 March 2009 12:34:04 PM
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Here is a sinister and unfortunately, highly plausible, way to deal with the over-population crisis.

http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html

Trust me I am a white-coat-wearing-"scientist"!
Posted by Ho Hum, Friday, 6 March 2009 12:49:06 PM
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