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Not another wave of Islamophobia please! : Comments

By Alice Aslan, published 17/12/2008

Islamophobia still dominates any debate on Islam and Muslims in Australia, and the terrorist attacks in India are likely to exacerbate this.

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Welcome back Leigh.

Once again showing your tolerance, open-mindedness and wondrous capacity for articulate and reasoned critique.

Good to see you bagging Pericles 'apparent intolerance' of David Boaz. Intolerance is something you won't put up with, eh?

To quote you: "Islamophobia again? I hope not. It's passe and as boring as batshit. So is everything about Islam."

Happy Xmas Leigh. C'mon, just one little smile. You can manage it!
Posted by Spikey, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 10:44:01 AM
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The reason for Islamophobia is that people are being murder by religious fanatics in the name of Islam

The best way to stop Islamophobia is for all religious leader of Islam to state that there are no virgins in heaven for evil people, they are going straight to hell.

Until the day Islam are the ones who are most intollerant on these evil deeds being perpetuated in the name of their religion. There will be people in the world scared of Islam

One of the things most wrong about Islam and its worshipper is that, they like to blame everything on other people, and it is never their fault, it was the Isrealites, it was the christians, it was the USA, it was Saddam Hussein ............

Once people of the Islamic faith start taking responsibilities of countering evil, and correcting their "religious teachings" that is the day Islamophobia will disappear
Posted by dovif2, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 10:49:01 AM
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The Islamic Ummah and Caliphate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate#Quran

Al-Mawardi says[18]:

It is forbidden for the Ummah (Muslim world) to have two leaders at the same time.

Yahya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (Al-Nawawi) says[19]:

It is forbidden to give an oath to two leaders or more, even in different parts of the world and even if they are far apart.

Ahmad al-Qalqashandi says[20]:

It is forbidden to appoint two leaders at the same time.

Ahmad al-Qalqashandi says[20]:

It is forbidden to appoint two leaders at the same time.

<<Once the subject of intense conflict and rivalry amongst Muslim rulers, the caliphate has lain dormant and largely unclaimed since the 1920s.>>

The time since the end of the last Caliphate is just under 100 yrs.

There are those seeking to re-establish it.(Hizb Ut Tahrir..and others)

It is quite possible that the scattered and diverse nature of the Muslim world referred to by the author is a direct result of this situtation. If thus follows, that a re-establishment of the Caliphate would bring back all that the previous one practiced including attempted world domination. (Surah 9:29)

One needs to take not a myopic view of the Islamic world today.. looking only at 'now'..but rather examine at the big picture..in the broader context of history.

Ask:
1/ What did the previous Caliphate bring to the world ? (military adventures, attempted takeover of Europe etc)

2/ What would a re-established Caliphate bring to the world?

go figure.
Posted by Polycarp, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 11:23:26 AM
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If Islamophobic means "we need to fully enlighten our own people about Islam"... lets go for the phobic.

Lets be completely and totally excessive for the sake of Christianity and democracy...and for the women and the children of Australia of tomorrow.

The following site has much about the global plan

http://www.globalpolitician.com/22399-islam

The problem as I see it nowadays, is that many younger folk dont want to know about major issues (after all it is about ME, ME, ME and ME... isnt it?) or believe in that false 'universal love' doctrine.

They forget that evil exists, or dont want to know, and that that evil has to be confronted.

Just above Darwin hovers a huge, mostly Islamic, military force that just hungers for the time when the world military climate changes so they can march south onto Australian to claim it as their 'South Irian'.

This military force is known to have killed some 500,000 citizens in East Timor.
There have been other incidents like the murder of the Balibo 5 reporters...killed mercilessly to warn Australia to keep out of East Timor.

May the USA forever stuff September 11, 2001 in our faces so we never forget that out of over 1 Billion Islamics worldwide ...1% support the violence.

Thats over 1 million Islamics who dont care how the West or anyone else suffers in the great mission to bring Sharia Law to evryone.

Build your armies Australia! Train your youth! Equip for a home guard defence force...for surely overnight the whole world climate can change.

DEFENCE should be propangandising todays youth... now... for the conflicts of tomorrow.
One of which looks like the invasion of Australia.
Posted by Gibo, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 11:33:52 AM
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"Islamophobia" is a catch-all term. Islam is an ideology like any other and, in a democratic society, is not immune from criticism,some of its believers think it should be and use the term in an attempt to suppress dissent. Many people in the West are indeed alarmed by Islam as earlier generations were alarmed by communism, for much the same reasons. I'd like Moslems to point out a liberal, progressive, democratic and prosperous nation that is majority Moslem. We have a right to be "Islamophobic" if this particular ideology threatens our liberties. That said, prejudice against Moslem people should not tolerated in a liberal democracy, it is however, not racism, that argument is specious.
Posted by mac, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 1:16:24 PM
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I have no time for fanatics of any variety whether it be Christian or Islamic.

Islamophobia is where normally rational and reasonable people, in response to a terrible incident, subject a whole group of people with prejudice based on the actions of a fanatical few.

Do we argue that all Christians are perverts because of the actions of a few paedophile priests? NO we don't, we use rational commonsense that tells us that most people, regardless of faith, want to be left to live their lives as they see fit, raising their children in safe and nuturing environments while respecting the rights of others to do the same.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 1:34:16 PM
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