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Not another wave of Islamophobia please! : Comments

By Alice Aslan, published 17/12/2008

Islamophobia still dominates any debate on Islam and Muslims in Australia, and the terrorist attacks in India are likely to exacerbate this.

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Every time a post is written about Islam we have the secular humanist blinded by dogma trying to compare Islam to Christianity. The truth is that secular humanism which ordains the murder of tens of thousands of unborn babies has far more in common with terrorism than any other group. CJ is a fine example of someone entrapped by his own contradictory dogmas. He compares building Christian churches to building mosques. I would say that building mosques and abortion clinics have far more in common. They are totally intolerant of anyone that might challenge their usual 'tolerance' rhetoric. The sad thing is that they honestly believe their own lies.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 2:40:51 PM
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If the author wants to do away with Islamophobia, here is one suggestion from a leading writer on Islam>

"If Muslims want to end "Islamophobia" instantaneously, here's how they can do it:

1. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
2. Renounce definitively not just "terrorism," but any intention to replace the U.S. Constitution (or the constitutions of any non-Muslim state) with Sharia even by peaceful means.
3. Teach Muslims the imperative of coexisting peacefully as equals with non-Muslims on an indefinite basis.
4. Begin comprehensive international programs in mosques all over the world to teach against the ideas of violent jihad and Islamic supremacism.
5. Actively work with Western law enforcement officials to identify and apprehend jihadists within Western Muslim communities.

If Muslims do those five things, voila! "Islamophobia" will vanish."

Any likelihood that any of this is being discussed in Australian Islamic circles I wonder?

It would make a very interesting OLO piece.
Posted by bigmal, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 3:56:18 PM
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GZ I was there as a missionary :)

Dear Spikey...
1/ The socialist youth relates to the topic..in that his mentality is similar to many I encounter here. i.e. "Don't give me facts (such as Quran or hadith quotes) I don't know anything about Islam but don't you DARE criticize it" So..I demonstrate the similarity. CJ seems to have a similar mindset of knowing little but saying much (in defense of Muslims). Though I should add, my attacks are aimed at Islam as a set of ideas..not Muslims directly.

2/ Spikey... that was real world shouting.. using caps here is different.. I often use caps for a heading....quite legitimate. Other times just for EMphasis.

3/ Facts are helpful things. Offer as many as you like..I welcome them. Do you welcome factual issues about Islam?

4/ I've yet to encounter the 'awkward question' that causes me to cringe in fear or horror.

I think you're fantacizing there.

Happy Christmas and have a good break.
Posted by Polycarp, Sunday, 28 December 2008 8:50:23 PM
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Spikey... 4got one question ....

Do I carry a copy of the Quran with me? Yes I do when I go out on a 'mission' such as attending the Islamic protest at RMIT or the information day.

I would be remiss to be making claims about Islam unless I can back them up would I not?

Evidence... aaah.. it always helps to differentiate bigotry from truth.

Bigotry was the Socialist who ranted "They have a right to practice their religion" yet he does not know what their religion teaches.. what a total dimwit.

The true extent of his dimwittedness was revealed when I mentioned that in his own magazine (Socialist Alternative) there was a story about how the Iranian revolutionary guards massacred 10,000 socialists after they gained power....

This is how crazy Socialist activists are in Melbourne..

-they demonstrate the stupidity of supporting Muslims who betray them in their own magazine.
-yet they stubbornly try to rationalize this in terms of their socialist dialectic world view..and go into some twilight zone denial mode of "But it won't/can't happen to us/here"

Now..IF..these idiots had even half a clue, they would look more closely at what Islamic (un)Holy writ says about them...as a class of people.. and how they should be treated.

Once again..it comes back to the events and ideas contained most clearly in the 9th surah of the Quran. But hey...I won't bore you with that.. you can read/study it yourself.
Posted by Polycarp, Sunday, 28 December 2008 8:57:19 PM
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Good to see that this topic got to the 100 mark.

It was somewhat predictable though, given the title.

Now I wonder what the next one on Islamist matters will be.

I know what it will never be.

"What the followers of Islam themselves can do to assuage the level of Islamophobia", and written by a follower of note.
Posted by bigmal, Monday, 29 December 2008 4:36:19 PM
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