"Despite the criticisms levelled at Paul Bremer, his decisions to dissolve the Iraqi army and ban the Ba’ath political Party were both right"

I absolutely disagree with this assessment. Disbanding the Iraqi army removed the onl realistic apparatus to maintaining some form of stability and border control in Iraq.

Abruptly turning hundreds of thousands of trained soldiers onto the street, depriving them of there only income and insulting what professional pride they had left simply created a huge reservoir of angry young men trained to kill.

This, more than anything else, created the backbone of the insurgency. It was an incredible mistake by Bremer. The army could and should have been retained and merely re trained for its new role.

For America, it cannot be allowed to become another Vietnam and throw in the hatred shown towards Iran & Syria, what do you get a war based on religion sweeping across the Islamic World. Take a close look at these countries, Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan and in the Gaza & West Bank and tell me that we don't have wars based on religion.

Since the Second World War, most wars involving the United States and its allies have been based on two facts, Political Beliefs and Religion.

Why is Iraq another failure in the making for the West. Simple, Israel with Americas support fail to create a Palestinian State because they did not want to deal with Arafat. Now you have Hamas on one side and Fatah on the other, never shall the two live in peace.

Todays quick quiz....how long did it take after the american revolution to create a constitution and unite the country?

The history told us, Iraq did not work; Iraq was failed state due to the cost of millions of lives. I am not supporting the USA occupation, but I fully support the new suggestion to divide Iraq to 3 Part, may be free Kurdistan, Sunni region and Shiite territory.

Kurds suffered enough under the totalitarian regime, Kurds faced genocide ( anfal ) , and they deserve to create their own country on their own land . supporting Freedom Kurdistan is a moral , rational and humanitarian obligation to all people wherever they live in this world.

The best way and the quickest way to withdraw coalition forces in Iraq, is to let Iraqi people to live free without interference from outside.

International community must stop the intervention of Turkey, Saudi Arabia , Syria and Iran, and let people choose what they want. No doubt the Kurds and Shiite want to establish their own countries not just federalism in Iraq.
Iraq is a myth country. It’s not a holy doctrine to keep Iraq in any cost… enough pan-Arabism, enough totalitarianism , its time for the largest nation on earth ( Kurds) to live in their own country.

Sasha

Khatab,

"The more you dig the less likely you listen to someone telling you you are digging in the wrong place"

First, destroying the Baathist regime and dismantling the Iraqi army was among strategic errors why we are where we are today and why Iran became so powerful overnight.

Splitting Iraq into 3 nations as per your scenario means the following:

- A Kurdish independant state: means that soon south of Turkey will be declared as 'occupied territory of North Kurdistan'
- A shiite state means an 'Iranian Iraq'. a guaranteed extension of the Shiaa crescent into the Arabian gulf.
- A sunni state will be interesting to its western neighbour (Jordan) and most of all southern (Kuwait) since they used to be one of the same. How exactly is that 'stabilising' the GCC?

Where are you taking us?

As Khatab Sabir basically says, there never was or is an "iraq". It is a Western creation for people the West feel are not capable of looking after themselves.

There are three basic groups today and we all know what they are. And all three hate the other two.

To continue the fiction that they can unite is like asking Australians to create a country with New Zealand (acceptable, except for sport, as most of them live in Bondi anyway) and Indonesia (not acceptable in any way).

Why do any of us expect these people to accept it?

To Southerner. Haven't you been listening, watching or reading? It is and has been a copy of Vietnam even before they went there. History tells us that.

If you don't think so pleae tell us what country has the USA ever occupied and then left. If they did leave did they "win". Did the people there "win".

It's too late mate. A civil war is simply one part of the population attacking another all day every day. Bitter enemies to the death. Can you say that isn't the case in what we call Iraq?

I'll have a go Grey. No idea how long to create the constituion but I'll say never (it's still changing I believe) and it has never been united and never will. Except if you count words on paper. Even today we still have the South vs the North and never the twain shall meet. Score my answer please?