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A Tasmanian Liberal conscience vote on transgender law reform will diffuse potential hate campaigns : Comments

By Rodney Croome, published 14/3/2019

A particularly nasty aspect of these rallies was how Liberal MPs sat in the front row applauding anti-gay speakers because the plan to decriminalise had been proposed by Labor and the Greens.

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Hey Rodney. You are a lefty, and you support "transgender rights", don't you? Well, that's great. So, you support the rights of 1200 (according to the last census) people who call themselves "transgender" to dictate to 25 million Australians what their rights should be?

Naw, Rodney, democracy doesn't work that way. You see in a democracy, the majority is supposed to make the rules. A minority can ask for special dispensation for exemption from those rules, but they need to make a convincing argument for that and get electoral support for it. Now, you may have some support for your wacky idea that there is no gender from the noisy anti everything people, but your support is still an insignificant minority, although this minority may have political clout because they infest the media.

But when you go around demanding that 25 million people agree with your crazy position that that no gender exists, and when the loony left supports this insanity, then this drives millions of voters into the waiting arms of the conservative parties. And you wondered why Trump won the US presidential election?

Reality check to Rodney. People are concerned with their ever rising electricity prices. Kim jong Un has nuclear warheads and he may be able to mount them on ballistic missiles capable of reaching Australia. The evil Mullahs of Iran are building both missiles and they are trying to build nuclear warheads, and they have an ideology which considers the end of the world to be a good thing. The Nationalist and Socialist Chinese regime is demanding that an entire ocean and all of it's resources belong to China.

And all you care about is transgender toilets and transgender pronouns.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 14 March 2019 9:05:16 AM
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A lot of writing, a lot of fuss for a very few people on a topic that is of little interest to the mainstream, who have important concerns. There will always be males and females, despite the rantings of minorities and oddballs; despite any man-made legislating and kow towing to oddballs. You are what you are born, and that's that.

No matter how much the likes of Rodney Croome squeal, no matter what petty, meaningless 'victoriesí they have, nature cannot be changed. Nor can the minds of sensible people be changed.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 14 March 2019 9:41:51 AM
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Trump got elected because of a faulty electoral
system that badly needs fixing in the US. Hilary
Clinton got much more of the popular vote. The
entire electoral process was insane. And hopefully
will eventually get fixed.

One of the major prerequisites for democracy is a
toleration of criticism and of dissenting opinions. This
is fundamental to democracy. Governing parties must resist
the temptation to equate their own policies with the national
good, - or they will tend to regard opposition as disloyal or
even treasonable.

Similarly, democracies must avoid the danger of the "tyranny
of the majority." In some cases the democratic process may
work in such a way that a small minority is rendered
permanently powerless. For groups in this position, democracy
might as well not exist, and it is important that governments
should recognise the grievances of minorities that have
little political clout.

If the losers in the political process do not accept the
legitimacy of the process under which they have lost , they
may resort to more radical tactics outside the institutional
framework.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 14 March 2019 9:46:04 AM
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cont'd ...

Actually, change is the only constant in life.
By evolving and changing we grow as human beings.
For example, John Paul II and Benedict XVI were
both immensely impressed with the rigidity of thought in
Cardinal Pell. Pope Francis takes a rather different view -

"Behind rigidity something always lies hidden. In
many cases a double life."

The world is now shocked that a little over 20 years
in Pell's first months as archbishop of Melbourne this
supposedly pillar of society was forcing choir boys to
suck his penis.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 14 March 2019 10:05:26 AM
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cont'd ...

There should be a conscience vote on transgender reform
so that we are all treated with respect and dignity.
Surely that's the kind of society most Australians
want to live in.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 14 March 2019 10:17:11 AM
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We've had the voluntary postal survey and the overwhelming landslide result! The proposed legislation is both cruel and heartless and blatant persecution of a minority!

Because the ignorance personified, Homophobes, mistakenly believe it will play well in upcoming elections!? [If the cap fits?]

Voters will reject this and those right-wing conservatives like Cardinal Pell, and REMEMBER that ultra-conservative cohort that stood with him and where it counts!

ON POLLING DAY AND AT THE BOOTHS!

Instead will likely galvanise young voters and get them on the roll and vote this inhumane injustice down! As it should be in the land of the fair go!

FOOLS NEVER EVER LEARN!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 14 March 2019 10:39:45 AM
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