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Agreed rules, COP24 and climate change protest : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 3/1/2019

Little progress was actually made on the issue of commitments to cut emissions, even if there was, in principle, an agreement on a set of rules.

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This whole thing is about Global Climate Taxes, a cornerstone of the New World Order together with the UN Migration Compact.

Put em both together and what's the bigger picture?

Global taxes are just another small step for Globalism.
Citizens of the world are already paying global taxes;
- Their governments make the payments in the form of foreign aid -

http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/12/03/un-climate-chief-has-solution-to-urgent-climate-threat-we-require-deep-transformations-of-our-economies-and-societies/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 3 January 2019 4:18:20 PM
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I don't know, but I have a feeling that the global warming premise is
slowly starting to fall apart. It has been top of the pops for the last
thirty years or so and nothing has changed.
More people seem to have doubts if not disbelief.
Those that speak out with some authority against global warming seem
to be becoming more prestigious in the field.

Ian Plimer's assertion that of every 84,000 co2 molecules in the air
one of them has been generated by mankind. (females just relax).
Do we believe that that extra molecule will burn up the planet ?

That was just one more argument out of many that makes me wonder.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 3 January 2019 9:55:09 PM
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The 'we love coal' display could be a sign the inmates have taken over the asylum. The attendees no doubt flew to Poland in kerosene burners perhaps thinking we'll each burn less fossil fuel to cover for them. Or perhaps the sacrifice is for others to make.

I wonder how much coal will be burned today if Melbourne hits 42C and aircons are on max. Funny how the heat keeps coming back.
Posted by Taswegian, Friday, 4 January 2019 6:59:20 AM
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Climate change might still be addressed, without cooking the kids, if we accept and exclusively use carbon-free power.

If it has to be coal-fired then it needs to be done very differently to how we do it now. With high-pressure boilers and steam driven turbines. And then push the power generated down miles and miles of transmission lines, where around 11% is lost.

Then staged down to user-friendly voltages and through virtually millions of miles of wires, where distribution losses could average out at around 64%.

And in total from the power plant to your meter box, a staggering 75% loss that you still pay for, in often eye watering bills.

A different way that entirely eliminates those losses is. First cook the coal utilising flameless heat, Solar thermal? Scrub the gas to further purify the extracted methane. Push down a national pipeline gas grid. Where individual users might chose to store this lighter than air gas in insulated ceiling spaces or basements in bladders, and providers might also choose to compress and store it in hardened underground facilities.

Methane acts with steel as a reductant. so given modest service tunnels that may have multiple service delivery uses, Regularly mantained pipes could serve for several centuries, be safe from fire storms, tempest and flood. And free from brownouts and blackouts. in any of those events!

Ceramic fuel cells would then convert this gas to electricity on demand 24/7 And eliminate the transmissin losses and provide power via a system which in combination has an80% energy coificient. And four times better than current coalfired power at 20%. The saving in both routine mantainence, transmission, and energy efficientcy. Could get power prices as low as 3 cents Per KwH. Just needs economy of scale.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 4 January 2019 11:25:14 AM
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It is only fitting that OLO is becomming a personal blog for Binoy von Kampmark http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/author.asp?id=715

Today OLO! Tomorrow zee Welt?

Naturally I support the Polish coal industry and as sea levels rise with global warming

offer to buy Double Bay, Brighton [1] and Byron Bay real estate for low-low prices.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton,_Victoria
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 4 January 2019 11:30:04 AM
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Footnote:
Methane-consuming ceramic fuel cells use a chemical conversion process, not combustion. And as a consequence, the exhaust product is mostly pristine water.

Read recently where large solar thermal facility in the California Desert and built by private interests utilising economies of scale, were able to more than match coal for construction costs and power prices. Given adjacent gas backup and thermal heat retention in giant vacuum towers as dissolved salt.

The gas backup here would come from the coal cooking facility. Moreover, all the real costs would be almost exclusively upfront at today's prices.

And given designed longevity. The profit life three times as long as cost recovery and as inflation reduces the original cost burden.

Meaning only political intransigence prevents such projects being done on the public purse, off-budget and socializing the profits!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 4 January 2019 11:44:58 AM
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