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A real friend to Israel would stand up for Palestinian rights : Comments

By Stuart Rees, published 21/2/2017

The Australian and Israeli governments have much in common. Each seems determined to not care much for international law and to care even less about the suffering of Palestinians.

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Nothing could justify inviting Palestinian leaders here. Palestinians are enemies of the Free World just as much as they are enemies of Israel.

“Australian journalists should also be ready to cross examine the Israeli Prime Minister in relation to the latest illegal expansion of Israeli settlements”? No. Australian 'journalists', like Professor Rees himself and hard Left drones who the Israeli PM would make mince meat of.

Of course Netanyahu should “thumb his nose” at international 'law'. The manipulators of international so-called law have proven themselves to be deadly enemies of Israel, and allies of the militant Islam that drives Palestinians. International 'law' is a joke - part of the global Left's attempt at World Government.

“If Mr. Netanyahu comes, the Australian government will also be on trial.” What a load of childish codswallop! ''

Professor Rees would save us a lot of boredom if he just stated how much he hates Israel.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 9:15:44 AM
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Oh dear. more false accusations will now probably
follow the author of this article. Publishing anything
even mildly criticising Israel guarantees an abusive
response as Antony Loewenstein learned with his book,
"My Israel Question." There is a price to pay for
speaking uncomfortable truths. The message is clear
anyone who dares to criticise Israel will receive
abuse. You're either with us or against us.

What a shame. There must be a way for Israel to exist
securely while allowing justice for the Palestinian
people. A sustainable future for Israel and the
Palestinians should be our central concern. We should
all support the rights of Israelis to live in peace
and security, but not at the expense of the Palestinians.
As Loewenstein stated - 'Why do we constantly hear
about Israel's need for 'security', as though that
justifies erecting walls, checkpoints, barriers,
stealing of Palestinian lands and houses, settlement
expansions? Why is the world told to believe that
the Palestinians should only accept peace on Israel's terms?"

Loewenstein says, "I've come to the sad realisation that
many in the West simply don't like Arabs or Palestinians
very much and therefore believe that Israel has the right
to treat them as they wish."

In all of this, the news media plays a crucial role since
they are the major conduit for the debate. Of course the
powerful Zionist lobby helps a great deal, as does the
support of the USA.

It is time for a radical rethinking of the conflict -
and for the world community to finally take a moral
stand. Otherwise sadly things will go on as they have to
date.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 9:36:16 AM
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Dearest Foxy,

One problem with recognising a state of Palestine is which Palestine do we mean - the one whose borders coincide with the 1967 cease-fire line, or some other model, one with the 1948 borders perhaps ?

Or the one favoured by the PA and Hamas, i.e. including all of Israel ? i.e. by their definition, the 'recognition' of Palestine means the denial of the recognition of Israel.

After all, what does it mean NOT to recognise Israel's right to exist ? One answer: that another state claims Israel's territory as its own. So unless 'recognition' comes with a clear definition of what and where Palestine is, it's a back-door way of denying the right of Israel to exist.

Does Israel have a right to exist ? I think so. As a religious state ? Yes, if that's the case for so many other states: Islamic republics like Iran and Turkey, Islamic kingdoms like Saudi Arabia, and perhaps others.

Can Israel remain formally a democratic state AND one based on Jewish principles ? Yes, if those principles are made to accord with what we consider to be standard rights and obligations under a democracy, equality before the law, etc.

John Kerry battled to get the support for the two-state solution. Of course, Netanyahu and others kept muddying the waters by building new settlements. But that could, perhaps, be justified by the refusal of the Palestinian authorities to recognise Israel, i.e. using settlement building as an 'encouragement' to come to the table.

Ultimately, I would support a single-state, democratic, non-religious state across both countries, but that's probably a 22nd century pipe-dream. In the meantime, I would support a two-state solution, with NO more settlement building.

Love always,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 10:39:22 AM
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Hey Guys

Remember Israelis are mostly white. So it goes without saying white rule is worse than brown Sunni (including Palestinian) and Shiite Muslims constently killing many more of themselves in:

- Iraq
- Syria
- Lebanon, and
- Pakistan

The Left feel guilty about Whites actually being in the Middle Eastern Muslim Paradise.

Also the Left have a sneaking hatred of the subset of "Capitalists" who are Jews.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 11:05:15 AM
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a real friend to the 'Palestinians'will tell them the truth. Israel have been worshipping in Jerusalem for centuries. Read the history books. The 'holy' place for muslims is Mecca not Jerusalem. A real friend of the Palestinians would tell them its not a good idea to fire thousands of rockets into Israel. A real friend would tell the Palestinians not to use their kids as human shields and as one former PM said that when they love their children as much as they hate then peace might have a chance. A real friend would tell the Palestinians that they are not entitled to the land that God gave Israel thousands of years ago. The lefites are no true friend of the Palestinians or Israel.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 11:07:10 AM
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The road map to a two state solution needs to be back on the table and the illegal settlements must not only stop, but torn down!

Simply put, this patent bastardry is only harming the peace process and moving it ever further away! And at metaphorical light speed! And absolutely needs to be addressed with unwavering resolve, if Israel is to have a future, let alone, peace!

Imagine if Hitler (the empathy of a borrow load of bricks) were instead a far sighted visionary and able to look his and Germany's future in the face, so to speak?

Imagine then if you can, just how many of his decisions would have been rolled back or completely abandoned?

Then apply that logic and rationale to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict! I double dare you!

Nothing less is in play! Understand?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 21 February 2017 11:11:03 AM
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