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A real friend to Israel would stand up for Palestinian rights : Comments

By Stuart Rees, published 21/2/2017

The Australian and Israeli governments have much in common. Each seems determined to not care much for international law and to care even less about the suffering of Palestinians.

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Dear Shadow Minister,

Left-Wing Whinge?

How original.

Then I guess Amnesty is part of that "Left-Wing" scenario.
Because it has also criticised Israel (Reuters) and
accused it of war crimes during the conflict.
Apart from the many deaths, at least 16,245
homes were destroyed or rendered uninhabitable.

The Palestinians have joined the International Criminal
Court since the end of the war. A move opposed by
Israel. And, the ICC is examining possible war crimes
in the conflict.

I guess if the results should go against Israel - it
will have been a biased -" anti-Semitic, Left-Wing conspiracy".
And you will be able to congratulate yourself on being
right. Or is it "Right-Wing?"
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 23 February 2017 7:05:29 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

You wrote;

“So Foxy, I would suggest you find you own therapist for your own skewed perspectives”

What the hell? How dare you!

You sir are the epitome of shill for Zionist extremism. Most Australians, barring this bunch of rightwing ideologues we have in government, see what is happening to the Palestinians as wrong, that they are not getting a fair go, that the ritual slaughter of hundreds of Palestinians totally offensive to any notion of justice.

Those who are a little more across the issue recognise that the Israeli government is stealing Palestinian land at a furious rate, is occupying, brutalising, imprisoning torturing and Palestinians and have absolutely no intention of ever recognising a Palestinian state.

Most other countries in the world share that view which is why we see UN resolutions against the actions of the Israeli government.

I think we have decided that you sir are not Jewish, that your support for extremist Zionism is bourne purely from your version rightwing ideology, one that lets you ignore what most other nations in the world see as self evident; that the actions of the current Israeli government are morally repugnant, against the Geneva convention, against international law and against any chance of resolving this conflict peacefully.

Your is the skewed perspective and further more it is dishonourable.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 23 February 2017 7:19:51 PM
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Dear Steele,

Thank You.

There's a link that may be of interest to you:

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/11/28/10-zionist-arguments-youve-encountered-but-didnt-have-answers-to/

Part of its conclusion states -

"For peace and justice to be realized, the lies have to
be exposed and the true nature of the conflict must come
to light. There needs to be a paradigm shift in which it
is no longer feasible for mainstream media outlets -
which effectively serve the role of manufacturing comment
for the US policy of supporting Israel's crimes against
the Palestinians - to mindlessly parrot US and Israeli
government claims and peddle deceitful propaganda."

"Zionist apologists for Israel's behaviour employ numerous
talking points to try to justify its crimes. Knowing how
to effectively counter the propaganda is key to effecting
the necessary paradigm shift for peace to be achieved."

That is why people like Antony Loewenstein, Robert Fisk
and many others (including yourself) are so important in
having this debate continue.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 24 February 2017 12:16:55 PM
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SR,

You have become synonymous with bombastic hypocrisy, and once again you don't disappoint. Firstly I was simply reflecting Foxy's comment back on her and it goes far further than this, it would appear that you are a shill for the thinly disguised anti semetic racism that is at the core of the so called "progressive" movement.

My "conservative" ideology requires that I apply the same standards to all parties in a situation, an obligation that so called progressives don't share.

Israel is prepared to sit at the negotiating table, but Hamas and the PLO are not. Who do the left whingers want to punish?

Hamas fires >10 000 rockets at civilian areas (Geneva convention violation) in Israel.
Hamas does this from crowded civilian areas of their own (another GC violation)
Hamas stores munitions and materiel in schools and Hospitals (another GC violation)

Israel responds and in an attempt to limit civilian casualties uses precision strikes in those civilian areas from which Hamas are firing (not a GC violation)

etc etc
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 24 February 2017 1:18:01 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

9 facts about the Israel-Palestine Conflict on Which We
Can all Agree:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/qasim-rashid/9-israel-palestine-facts_b_5643077.html
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 24 February 2017 4:27:57 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

This should be pretty easy to determine. A simple question is all it takes;

Do you believe the movement by Israel of settlers in to the West Bank is against the Geneva Convention and if it is why on earth should the Palestinians sit down and negotiate while this war crime continues?

As to the 10,000 rocket figure the IDF fired 30,000 artillery rounds into Gazan population centers in three weeks during the last mass killings, each with far higher lethality than the Palestinian home made rockets. Add to that thousands of tank and mortar shells along with missiles from aircraft and this can be seen for what it represents, a truly horrendous onesided slaughter.

Finally the anti-Semitic slur was expected but coming from a supporter of radial Zionism it really means diddly squat.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 24 February 2017 5:26:49 PM
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