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What will the NT Royal Commission achieve? : Comments

By Brendan O'Reilly, published 28/7/2016

It is currently fashionable to blame the corrections system for high rates of Indigenous imprisonment and for destroying the childhood of those imprisoned. I take a different viewpoint.

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All the royal commission will achieve is to go soft on criminals so that they are free to commit more crime.
But that's okay because we all have to remember if someone commits a crime its our fault not theirs.

Australia has got to a place were the criminals have more rights ( and help) then their victims. We need Politicians with some balls that will say enough is enough. Stop feeding the lawyers and social workers your only making it worst.

Mandatory sentencing and three strikes and you're out.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Thursday, 28 July 2016 9:13:41 AM
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Perhaps if the left, inner-city champions for these little thugs were subjected to the actions of these little darlings, they would think differently. What will neighbours think? Well, most of our neighbors have come down harder on this kind of trash because the politicians there believe in law and order and protecting their society, unlike the likes of Turnbull. Our neighbours would see we need to do more to rid ourselves of scum.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 28 July 2016 11:25:09 AM
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Kids learn what they live! And in the case of young Mr Voller, its has been violence accompanied by worse rabid dog eat mad dog violence!

I'm not sure this young man could ever be rehabilitated, but his history would support a red hot try! And he and others like him would probably need to have their brain chemistry normalized by appropriate medication? Then he needs an opportunity to earn his chance for a far better life?

And that might be achieved in a very different environment far away from his usual cohorts, cadre and constant companions!

He would have to agree if he would earn a brand new start and a very different outcome, which would likely make him a leader and responsible for others and a far better outcome for them also!

And based on tough love, boot camp, survival training and simple but treasured reward, NONE OF WHICH CAN EVER INCLUDE DRUGS, TOBACCO OR ALCOHOL!

It's not a new idea and has been strikingly successful elsewhere. The other choice seems to be to simply lock them up, throw away the key and waste around %70,000.00 per restraining them in relatively humane conditions.

As always when we put folk in our prison system where we place hardened incorrigible criminals for them to learn from, we invariably return them to society as hardened criminals without any prospects, or anything left to lose?

When instead, at least some of them could be taught a useful trade plumbers, electricians, cabinet makers etc, or worthwhile professions that would allow them to be gainfully employed on the outside and a very badly needed circuit breaker!

Everyone deserves at least one fair dinkum and earned second chance! And a better outcome than simply outsourcing an abrogated responsibility that has added around $30,000.00 per towards the cost of housing individual offenders!

That same money would allow a properly resourced public system to actually teach young folk a useful trade!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 28 July 2016 12:23:34 PM
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As usual, its someone else's fault, but hang on, if this little darlings led a normal lifestyle and remained out of detention, the programme would have nothing to air.

The reality is that we as a society are now powerless to do anything as all the apology has achieved is to have placed our authorities on the back foot and they are merely spectators.

Take these kids away from their environment and we face another stolen generation backlash, leave them there and this is the result for many.

Sorry, but it's a lost cause unless someone is prepared to do what is required and ignore the do-gooders. That's highly unlikely to happen, especially with the current dud we have.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 28 July 2016 12:48:58 PM
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I'm going to get to the point quickly here because most folks today have 2 - 3 minute attention spans.

The problem with high rates of incarceration for indigenous is that their poor impulse control will always put them at risk of violating the nations criminal laws.
I'm saying this from first hand personal experience from past failed relationship with an indigenous woman and observations of her family members, combine that with this countries history of interactions with indigenous peoples and I think I've got a pretty good grasp on where they are coming from.

Now before I get labelled a racist, consider the fact that ALL human being behavior is influenced by genetics. However genes are not the be all and end all of human behavior patterns, but science has demonstrated via the topic of anthropology and obviously genetics it's self, that they are significant contributors to an individuals behavior patterns.

It's not the Australian indigenous peoples fault either, after all they were isolated from combining their gene pools with other races for 10's of thousands of years.

So what do we do about it? I don't have a solution, but I don't think we can have one set of laws for non indigenous and another for indigenous either.
Posted by Rojama, Thursday, 28 July 2016 1:13:12 PM
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Hi Rojama,

Look up the word "racist" in the dictionary. If the cap fits, wear it.
Posted by JBSH, Thursday, 28 July 2016 3:54:09 PM
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