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A day of shame : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 27/1/2016

Forget pride, achievement, nationalism and the inevitable mindless jingoism normally associated with Australia Day, Stan Grant has put paid to that.

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Stan Grant "speech" at a debate about racism was a hate speech. It didn't take courage, any more then he displayed when he walked out on his family.
Stan just trotted out the same old tried it's all white mans fault and the bleeding heart lefties of the inner suburbs lapped it up.

Bruce you have to remember your a white guy therefore you are a racist. It's your racist values that every Aboriginal in Redfern does have a high paying job with a car and MacMansion.

BTW The person ( can't recall her name) who followed him had far more to contribute to the reality of modern Australia.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 8:31:05 AM
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Bruce Haigh's article embodies much that is contemptible about the Left: the predictability, the moral posturing, the inability to construct a rational argument based on facts and the snide denigration of John Howard and Tony Abbott - men whose achievements far outstrip his own.

In this case he uses Stan Grant's recent speech on alleged racism against Aboriginal people - though, in the absence of validation, the examples Grant used sound more like family fables than facts - as an excuse to fly kites about open borders for illegal immigrants.

Haigh apparently hasn't noticed the entirely predictable results of Europe's flirtation with open borders, problems mostly avoided here because of the policies of the Howard and Abbott governments. Google "asylum seekers + sexual assaults" and you'll see examples, including reports of sexual assaults of children in detention centres by those Haigh wants to let in to this country.

People like Haigh preen themselves about the value of multiculturalism, on one hand, then cry racism on the other.

They can't have it both ways, but they can be wrong on both.
Posted by calwest, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 8:47:22 AM
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Once we have a Republic the day of its Proclamation will be the new date for Audtralia Day. That way the adverse association with 26th January will be removed and the inclusiveness of all citizens will be achieved. Because the issues that disconnect are looming ever larger the matter of the Republic is becoming more urgent, not less as Malcolm Tutnbull would have it.
Andrew Farran
Posted by Andrew Farran, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 8:59:44 AM
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What makes people assume that changing the date on which Australia Day is celebrated, or indeed, achieving independence, is going to result in change to the attitudes of the fortunate racists among us?

Peoples' attitudes and demeanour are the result of many years of social conditioning; they are ingrained and not dispersed readily.

Whether or not one agrees with everything which Stan Grant or David Morrison say is less important than the very act of saying it.
It's a fact that the population listens to those who are well-known, despite the convincing arguments of a huge number of less eminent folk.
Posted by Ponder, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 9:15:14 AM
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Yes and we all stood where we were and just allowed it to happen, without lifting a finger to stop it!

But what else could we do?

I don't know about you, but I wasn't even a tilt in my daddy's kilt, nor even a gleam in his eye, and therefore completely powerless to affect outcomes.

Outcomes which include forced resettlement and some of the longest most horrendous sea voyages in history, locked in the fetid, vomit and feces stained bowels of storm tossed gyrating sailing ships, some of which produced absolutely appalling death tolls among a hapless human cargo!

More often than not transported to a very harsh, primitive and unforgiving exile, at the other end of the earth, for stealing a few crumbs to try and keep a starving family alive!?

I can't do more than say sorry, fed house and clothe you, educate you, take care of your health needs and try and protect those innocents (women and kids) you drunkenly abuse.

At the end of the day, there's not a black way or a white way just a right way, which by the way, can never ever include a black armband view of history, or the victim mentality that alone fosters it!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 9:28:04 AM
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In 1967 91% of Australians voted for a fair go for Aboriginal people. 9% didn't. You can focus on the 91%, or the 9%. Pick a scab and it will keep bleeding. Stan points out (but doesn't seem to get) that the Australian Dream is continually being mugged by history. His speech continues the mugging. It serves only to increase division, and serves only those who benefit from maintaining this division. Ask the Irish.
Posted by Peter McCloy, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 9:30:11 AM
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