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APEC, G20, COP21: the year of climate solutions? : Comments

By Stewart Taggart, published 3/3/2014

A pipeline network stretching from Australia up into Asia could redefine markets and boost wealth and environmental outcomes.

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Brilliant Stewart,

I canít fault this celestial alignment to which you refer. It would be good if there was an example of where this might have been used before, you know a working model we could reference?

It seems almost identical to the EU centric model that seems to going so well. Perhaps you could give us an update on how well this is all going.

Conversely if you canít tell us, we can most certainly tell you!
Posted by spindoc, Monday, 3 March 2014 8:46:05 AM
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quote..<<..In becoming the world's largest economic bloc in coming years,>>

DREAM ON
http://img.ymlp.com/9hhz_wwwg20APECcop212001.gif
<<.>>

<<..Asia must build out trillions of dollars of new infrastructure.>>

WE ARNT PAYING FOR IT
STICK YA TAX ON CARBON
TAX BIG BUSINESS..NOT US
DO IT THE SAME WAY WE DID IT..[councils build services by rates]
we are sick of building ya infrastructure pipes poles wires ports sports stadium etc etc

P OFF

USER PAYS
BIG USERS [Abusers]..pay double
you want a new cash cow/carbon credits..on our power to build your infrastructure[AND REBUILD OURS]..YOu guys are insane[ENACTING ACTIVE TREASON/Stealing services we built by fees/to now build huge enrons globally

you lot should all be in jail
but for 911 destroying the court case when you lot stole THE GOLD AND KILLED BUILDING 7..ENRON CRIMINALS THE LOT OF YOU[WE NEED THAT ENERGY SCAM MACHINE SHUTT>>

IT BEGINS WITH YOU GOING TO HELL
<<.>>This could be funded through regional carbon marke

yep thought so
WE PAY FOR YOU TO OWN IT
WE MAINTAIN..IT 'PROTECT'..IT..YOU LOOT US ALL VIA IT.

TOO CLEVER..by half..YOU LOT SHOULD BE IN JAIL
OR HANGING OF A ROPE..I NOTE THE DAMM PLAN is to run pipelines poles power globally THROUGH JUNGLES [TO STEAL LOCAL LAND PERMISSIONS AND 99 YEAR LEASE..OVER EVERYTHING FROM WATER TO GAS

Its..CRIMINAL..ITS WHOLE SALE DELUSION/GREED..DEAD CORPORATE STATES SUKKING THE WEALTH /LIFE BLOOD FROM THE LIVING

A POX ON YA IDEA FOR A NEW TAX
Posted by one under god, Monday, 3 March 2014 9:41:29 AM
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Good idea, except for the crapola about carbon which is 100% fraudulent.

"This could be funded through regional carbon markets supplemented by multilateral investment organizations and creation of oil and gas Joint Development Areas.... Carbon markets have been created in China and South Korea. Australia has carbon pricing."

These are not markets for "carbon". They are markets for tax receipts, and for government permission to engage in productive activity that government has made illegal in order to obtain payment for granting permission - a protection racket.

Notice how no-one can make any relevant claim about carbon without immediately descending into lies and misrepresentations?

It is impermissible to enter into a discussion about "carbon" - translation: alleged catastrophic man-made global warming - otherwise on the basis that
- ALL the global warming models have proved FLATLY INCORRECT,
- the IPCC has revised its key claims downward to contradict its alarmism,
- the entire climate industry has been exposed as riddled with sycophantic self-serving error, blatant bias, and outright lies, and
- the real costs of trying to fine-tune the world's temperature are astronomical while the alleged benefits are piddling and not worth the cost in human suffering.

It's a great idea for the people of Australia and Asia to collaborate more closely in the process of productive activity to mutually satisfy human needs.

But infrastucture is just capital goods by another name. It needs to be funded as other capital goods are - by the voluntary payments or investments of those who want to do so. Otherwise there's no way of knowing whether scarce resources are going to satisfy the most urgent and important felt wants, which is the whole purpose of the exercise.

Funding it by tax receipts based on the government-sponsored biggest fraud in the history of the world would be the exact opposite of "market efficiency" and "transparent pricing".
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Monday, 3 March 2014 10:01:48 AM
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Why would Ozzies want to pay a "carbon" tax on a fraud?

Why would Ozzies want to fund a method of supplying cheaper gas to Asia, the very area that is undercutting & destroying our industries?

If Asians want cheaper gas, let them invest in any pipeline.

If international companies want to pump Australian sourced gas through a pipeline to Asia, let them fund the pipeline.

I would suggest you drop the attempted use of the global warming/CO2 fraud, when pushing these schemes. It's time is over. Trying to use it just generates much anger towards your dreams. Try to find another push factor, or die along with the scam.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 3 March 2014 10:27:04 AM
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When the proposition is to be funded by money raised by a tax based on the AGW fraud, your initially interesting idea loses all appeal.

Carbon dioxide is a gas vital to all life on Earth. Reduction of emissions, which is the aim of a carbon tax, is a crime against life.
Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 3 March 2014 10:58:13 AM
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Dear lunatics:
Thanks for you comments.
I'm happy to let them stand, for rational people to dismiss accordingly.
Please, keep on ranting.
You serve as my ambassadors.
Posted by Stewart1111, Monday, 3 March 2014 10:58:16 AM
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