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Engineering the climate: is science fiction becoming reality? : Comments

By Kerryn Brent and Jeffrey McGee, published 19/12/2012

It will be difficult for countries to resist experiments in geoengineering as it has the allure of being a relatively inexpensive and quick response to climate change impacts.

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There have been various proposals for climate engineering over the years but there are major objections.

1) we want to be sure that first global warming is occurring on a scale large enough to be a problem, before we do anything. Economies and societies will adapt readily enough if its just one or two degrees (assuming anything happens at all), but 5 or 6 might be an issue. At present, despite all the screaming from activists there is every indication that any increase that does occur will be in the 1-2 ranges.

2) If human activity is going to warm the earth to an unacceptable degree then adopting another industrial solution to counter it might well be asking for trouble with all sorts of unintended consequences.

All in all, not a good idea.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:00:25 AM
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Yes the unintended consequences could turn out to be horrific, especially as everything is interconnected.

Have you ever seen how fractals emerge?
They spontaneously create ever expanding patterns of both seeming order and unpredicatble chaos.
Try Fractals Unleashed
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:33:51 AM
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AGW is a failed theory; it has always been a scam scientifically but the real loons have occupied the social engineering and energy replacement areas which have sprung up like toadstools due to the necessity of doing something about the non-existent AGW.

Another loon area is geoengineering. As a basic concept I have no problem with humanity shaping the environment to better suit our needs; only a green/gaia nutter would object on the basis of the sanctity of nature and mother Earth. But when the geoengineering is proposed to mitigate AGW and not to directly benefit humans than it is merely another manifestation of the misanthropy which underpins AGW.

If the clowns who wrote this article want to geoenegineer anything let them go to another planet and terraform it to suit humanity, rather than geoengineer Earth to disadvantage humanity.
Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:51:10 AM
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An exceedingly dangerous interference in the natural climate cycle like this is sheer megalomaniacal lunacy. The obsession with imaginary Climate Change has clearly gone too far. Now we are going to take drastic steps to fix a non-existent problem. The climate system is complex and the outcome is unpredictable. These lawyers must be rubbing their hands together in anticipation of the the lawsuits to follow something like this.

Can someone show me absolute proof that the 0.8-0.9 degree temp increase in the last 150 yrs has caused a catastrophe somewhere on the planet? Sea levels have been rising since well before the industrial revolution and there has been no significant av Global temp increase in the last 15 yrs.

The recent leak of IPCC AR5 confirms no warming in 16 yrs, meanwhile some are planning a Dr Strangelove intervention.
Posted by Atman, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:55:30 AM
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It really is frightening that a law lecturer & a PhD candidate can talk such garbage. 6 degrees C by the end of the century, it had better start warming up damn soon kids, if it's going to happen

If you are going to write these works of fiction, & have anyone pay any attention, first start to give your story some basis in fact.

All the best, or even moderately good science fiction writers at least try to present some reasonable hypothesis to set their scene.

I suggest you go back & try that, before developing your story line. Oh, & try to put more than 5 minutes into developing the idea, before you start typing.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:06:28 AM
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Dear Kerryn and Jeffrey,

“The latest climate science released by the Global Carbon Project for the Doha conference indicates the planet is currently on track for a rise in temperature of between 4 and 6 degrees later this century”.

Rubbish. This is nothing to do with science; it is a predication that is contradicted by science and like all the other “predications” produced by the warmertariat, unsubstantiated. If you want to know just how far off the mark you are, try reading the draft IPPC report AR5.

It is to be hoped that the two of you perform better in Law than you do in geo-physics. As my Grand pappy used to say, as a brain surgeon you would make a great plumber
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:10:31 AM
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