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Fuelling the next terror : Comments

By Julian Cribb, published 3/6/2011

In Afghanistan we may be inadvertently helping to raise, train and arm the next generation of terrorists

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>>we may inadvertently be helping to raise, train and arm the next generation of terrorists.>>

What do you mean by inserting the word "may" into the above?

Is that a typo?

Shouldn't it read:

>>we ARE inadvertently helping to raise, train and arm the next generation of terrorists.>>
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Friday, 3 June 2011 5:19:40 PM
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Stevenlmeyer,the West with its' interference in Arab oil rich countries has created all the terrorism.They have also done false flag terrorism themselves to justify the invasion of Arab oil/resource rich nations.Corporate Western Imperialism is the reason for terrorism.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 3 June 2011 5:29:37 PM
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LETS HOPE OUR LEADERS CAN DROP SAD U.S. SAYINGS

I'm hoping that the new Chief of the Defence Force and Minister Smith will not insult all Australians with that brainless excuse for destroyed lives "stay the course". I've heard it before from several serving officers - probably 'all the way with the USA' Molan?

Both Canada and the Netherlands (which left Afghanistan) have suffered years longer than Australian forces. Some Canadians (who have lost more than 80) and Dutch pro-war advocates clutched for reasons to stay in Afghanistan. However no pro-war advocate can genuinely locate a reason for fighting Afghans other being there because America wants our countries to be there - and we have to be loyal to the world's most powerful Army.

Our flags flying alongside America's are a diplomatic cover to disguise America's particular national strategic reasons for having us all in Afghanistan indefinitely. If counter-terrorism was the reason then America could easily run a counter-terrorism campaign on its own with just a few thousand troops rather than a full-fledged counter-insurgency with over 100,000 troops and us and NATO.

The political gamesmanship of the Afghan campaign is revealed in Obama's apparently prescient decision in 2009-10, that 2 years hence, that is next year (2012) 30,000 US troops could and will be 'de-surged' back to America. This return will symbolize Obama's sound leadership in war (essential for continuing US Presidents) just before the 2012 US Presidential Election. Funny forward thinking that.

We haven't heard "stay the course" from our new Defence Chief as each of our brave troops body's return. The Chief looks far too wise, and humane, to echo other leader's lies, I hope.

Peter Coates
http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 3 June 2011 5:44:28 PM
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Look Julian, this is all getting really out of perspective. You lead with the death of an Australian combatant. As ex military myself, I am always saddened by such loss of life.

If Iím correct; we have lost some 25 combatants since the intervention since when?, 2003? Thatís eight years.

In the meantime, we are killing 1,500 Australians a year on our roads, 251 children each year are killed in domestic accidents within the home and Australians are dying in horrific circumstances in about 20 other categories, totaling about 3,000 a year.

If you need to make a case for 25 tragedies in 8 years, against 24,000 in the same period, itís time you retired in disgrace.

Sorry, but proportionality is getting lost in politics, and that is the real tragedy.
Posted by spindoc, Friday, 3 June 2011 6:56:35 PM
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Your still thinking only of the Australians, spindoc. I'm also thinking of the hundreds of thousands of Asian lives wasted in those conflicts. As Donne had it: "every man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind".
Posted by JulianC, Friday, 3 June 2011 7:12:06 PM
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Though it is a popular anecdote with many of the literati in the West . I would not think that too many terrorists are fuelled by "aircraft rocketing wedding feasts", or civilians killed in battle.

I mean, if this was a sure fire way of creating terrorists there should be literary millions of anti-Talban terrorists .
Since the Taliban (both in Afghanistan and Pakistan) daily , deliberately, target civilians.

And if one needed further proof, ask yourself: If Afghan civilians are so alienated by the actions of the West , why are so many (disguised as refugees) heading to the West ? You donít run towards something you fear/hate.

No, I think most of the terrorists are fuelled by an ideology that preaches to young pubescent males that if they follow its narrow dictates they can get to heaven and be eternally ministered to by 77 doe eyed virgins .

And is taught like this, in thousands of madrassas across Pakistan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqRNp2wAjYM&feature=fvwrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i4Yq91CbR4
or Bangladesh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltsv40vCP7g
Or almost anywhere else in the Muslim world --- day after day after day after day Ö

That is where the terrorists are fuelled.

Actually, Iíd hazard a guess that more terrorists are fuelled by reports of civilian deaths in Afghanistan Ėright here in the west Ė by people like Julian unwittingly amplifying the Talibanís propaganda.
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 4 June 2011 7:50:53 AM
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