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Politics binds US over climate : Comments

By Tom Switzer, published 12/11/2010

Winter came early for climate change in the US elections.

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Meanwhile it even gets worse. Check out a reference re John Shimkus at Informed Consent. It is titles Energy Committee Chairman Candidate Says God Promised No More Catastrophic Climate Change After Noah.

Such is the "intelligence" that "informs" the no-nothing party.
Posted by Ho Hum, Friday, 12 November 2010 9:19:27 AM
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The popularity of ignorant self-interest triumphs over policy based on the best available knowledge and long term security. Is the human race even capable of doing otherwise when the voices of reason are drowned out by the cacophony of deluded deniers of science based knowledge? As the economic impacts of changing climate hit with ever increasing power, the will to invest in a low carbon future is going to clash ever more strongly with the belief that wasteful extravagance is an inalienable right.

Australia is not any better than the US despite a majority of sitting members in Federal parliament believing anthropogenic climate change is real - party allegiances and populism prevent bipartisan policy and the short term self interest in continuing to expand the extraction and export of fossil fuels undermines even the limited efforts to act with the future in mind. One only has to listen to the fanfare over new gas projects or the spruiking of QR and coal exports to know that any policy will be deliberately ineffectual. And the failure of watered down policy will simply be turned into ammunition against any serious policy as if being ineffective were the intent of those urging serious action. Are we really that shortsighted? Oh,yes and exceedingly proud of it!
Posted by Ken Fabos, Friday, 12 November 2010 2:56:12 PM
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Ken Fabos - congratualtions, you have grasped the reality that there is no possibility at all of reigning in industrial emissions. Even if there had been any real agreement on either the science or the projections, the cuts required are simply too large. We would have to shift entirely to nuclear to have a ghost of a chance

Fortunately, none of the projections are working out as per the IPCC reports. Methane concentrations in the atmosphere stabilised around the turn of the century, CO2 concentrations are below mid-point and global temperatues have barely shifted in more than a decade.

Just as well..
Posted by Curmudgeon, Friday, 12 November 2010 4:18:13 PM
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Well, we can certainly hope itís no better for the con men, in white coats than was Copenhagen.

That, with the continually growing mountain of evidence that the global warming con was just that, should finally silence the tiresome Ken Fabos's of this world, along with his fellow travellers.

I really am getting tired of continually being made aware of just how dumb, stupid, or nefarious our academics have become, as they burst into print, time & again with the same falsehoods, long disproven, in support of their con men compatriots.

Please let it end soon, preferable with a bunch of crooks paying for their sins.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 12 November 2010 7:50:18 PM
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Dear Ho Hum,
This battle is as old as time itself. "Did God really say" As you and I weren't there we have to take someones word for it and it all boils down to who do you trust, the men who like to gamble with the future, or the men who believe in random chance, evolution, or those who believe in intelligent design, a creator. I personally do not like to gamble with my children's future so I have taught them to seek the truth, question with boldness and never have blind faith. Faith is not blind for it is the substance of what you hope for. If Intelligent Design is nonsense to you that is ok by me for it is an individual choice and we are free to chose. Bye the bye what the bible does say is that God would never destroy all the people on the planet with a world flood again. As word meanings change with the passing of time it is very unwise to believe the modern meaning to base your life on. In my lifetime the use and meaning of the word gay has gone from meaning happiness to sexual preference. Again "Did God really say".
Posted by Richie 10, Saturday, 13 November 2010 4:06:02 AM
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I (Al Gore)and my many notable investors will now probably LOSE millions because my pet plan for Cap and TRADE will not go ahead.

I'm wringing my hands now at the demise of the Chicago Climate Exchange which promised TEN TRILLION dollars profit annully once Cap and TRADE was made law and all companies would be forced to comply.

All of my HEDGE FUND investors will be after my ass now (my life) because they have invested very HEAVILY in my funds on the promise of Cap and TRADE coming in with Obama and my Democratic Connections.

I think the reason these laws failed is that they actually saw through my scheme to make megabucks.. tragic... sad.. I feel lonely and abandoned... and soon will change my name to

ALGOREisNOT-rich_anymore.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Saturday, 13 November 2010 6:34:06 AM
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