You realise that fossil fuels are finite and will peak and run out
Max Green,
The oil industry will find solutions long before the renewable crowd will find one. They'll probably make it renewable long before the other mob works out where to dispose of their Green technology left-overs !

Indy,
so now the big oil and king coal companies are immune from the laws of physics and geology? Nice one there pal - enjoy your magic mushrooms as it's obviously what's powering your car. (wink) They'll just 'figure out' how to keep burning more fossil fuels even though they've run out? Yeah, nice one. I see understanding finite vs renewable is a real strong point of yours! (Wink)

Assuming the world shares fossil fuels on a free market, this is when they run out. Remember, before they run out they also have to peak and begin a permanent decline based on Hubbert's peak of mineral extraction. This is resource extraction 101 that would be mining geologists study.

“According to research based on 2015 data, the current statement of when our reserves will be emptied is this:

- Oil: 51 years
- Coal: 114 years
- Natural gas: 53 years”
http://group.met.com/en/mind-the-fyouture/mindthefyouture/when-will-fossil-fuels-run-out

“Reserves-to-production (R/P) ratios are widely-used indicators of the time to depletion of fossil fuel resources, but they are not reliable indicators of the longevity of fossil fuels. This paper examines historical data from 1985, relating to proven resources of fossil fuels and trends in consumption. Based on the increase in consumption as well as reserves, the conclusion is that current trends suggest that all fossil fuels (oil, gas and coal) could be depleted within decades, possibly as early as 2060.”
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/288718135_When_will_fossil_fuels_finally_run_out_and_what_is_the_technical_potential_for_renewable_energy_resources

More:
http://mahb.stanford.edu/library-item/fossil-fuels-run/
http://octopus.energy/blog/when-will-fossil-fuels-run-out/

Hey Max Green,
40 years is a fairly time if you think about human beings ability to innovate in the modern era.
Think about how far we've come since 1980.
I have absolute faith in human beings ability to find solutions to these problems.
I have little have any faith in the motives of the political class and elites that would use these issues to their own ends.

Even if we only had 10 years to go, we would see a huge effort rallying around the problems, and would see amazing things develop in a short time.

If such a time frame exists (40 years) then you people are making things worse, by trying to fix the issues now but of increasing the costs of everything by shutting down energy production and limiting supply, and making the nation non-competitive with foreign markets.

Think with your brain.
How are you going to make our nation more competitive internationally?
- So we can GET TO where we need to go?

Do you either:
a/ lower wages b/ lower energy costs c/ lower transport costs?
This is the only way our nation become more competitive.
If you don't pick one, the nation slowly goes broke.

With you lot making decisions the 40 years will be wasted because by then we'll be living in mud huts and riding donkeys.
There will be little hope of transitioning to anything.

Did you ever accidentally get your car sideways on a dirt or gravel road?
You can't get frightened and hesitate or you'll lose control and crash.
You need to power out of it, even when your mind initially tells you it's not the correct response.

Hi Max,

Indy believes his magic mushrooms are a renewable resource. He smokes this lot, and like magic another lot pop out of the ground. This magic is all down to Indy's good friends at Big Oil and Big Coal, who Indy believes are looking after him.

Just down in Sydney for a week, judging by the number of cars on the roads, oil is going to run out sooner rather than later. We're going to need a lot of those mushrooms.

Josephus wrote: "Where I live, we have 1,000 + trucks a day passing ...."

In total there are about 7500 trucks travelling between Sydney and Brisbane each day. Each one would need to stop somewhere along the way to recharge/change batteries. But not just at one place. Some go the inland route, some the coastal. And that's just Sydney-Brisbane.

In the US, it is estimated that each truck stop would need to have the electricity infrastructure of a small town to enable it to recharge these thousands of batteries each day. Imagine multiple stops with the attached sub-station, power lines, safety systems and all the other paraphernalia dotted along the nations highways. Who pays for that? Look at your next electricity bill to see who is already paying for these fantasies.

Its all smoke and mirrors. The simplest examination of the issues shows that it can't work the way these people assert. But that's OK by them. The process here is to generate the hype, get the gullible on board and then start the process of subsidy seeking.

In the end, the whole process is about transferring monies to the climate alarmists.

"According to research based on 2015 data, the current statement of when our reserves will be emptied is this...."

The so-called 'experts' have been predicting the imminent demise of oil/gas/coal for at least a century, even longer for coal. They always make the same mistake being that the one thing they leave out of their 'calculations' (for wont of a better word) is human ingenuity.

Remember the great peak oil hype from the 1970s? The 'experts' were so certain of their calculations that they convinced governments that doom was 20 years away. The US government implemented measures to cope. Here, PM Fraser introduced new taxes to try to preserve resources and delay the end of oil, which they all KNEW was just around the corner.

But they forgot about human ingenuity. (Ever heard of fracking?). Some raised their voice to try to insert some sanity into the issue (eg Julian Simon) but they were treated as fools and charlatans. They were right but being right doesn't count with the scare-mongers.

Yes we may run out of oil and coal sometime in the future. One estimate I saw was for coal to last at least another 400 years ad oil longer still, once you factor in known and expected reserves.

Anyone who thinks we won't have found alternative forms of energy in that time-frame hasn't been paying attention to the last 300 years. Once a new disruptive energy source comes along to displace oil/coal, it will do so without the need for subsidy and governmental tinkering.

Coal replaced wood without governmental help. Oil replaced coal in many places without the need for intervention by the 'experts'.

The Stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones. The oil age won't end because we ran out of oil.