Hi TTBN -
just saying 'proof' and whacky like that does not erase the facts. Not to reasonable people anyway. But here? Maybe just snarling does qualify as a logical rebuttal in this echo chamber?
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The Australian Government spends billions on programs that encourage more coal, gas and oil to be extracted and burned. Market Forces estimates that tax-based fossil fuel subsidies cost Australian taxpayers $12 billion every year.

The Government itself states $7.7 billion was invested in Australia’s renewable energy sector in 2020. Imagine if the fossil fuel industry’s annual subsidies of $12 billion were redirected to renewable energy.

The International Monetary Fund estimates that, on a global basis, removing global fossil fuel subsidies and taxing fossil fuels appropriately could lead to a decline in fossil-fuel related carbon emissions by over 20%.

Australia’s subsidies to the fossil fuel industry come in three forms:

tax-based subsidies, involving tax breaks to the producers and users of coal, oil and gas
direct handouts, where state and federal governments give out large sums of cash to help fossil fuel companies expand their operations
public financing, where our governments loan public money to big companies that can’t get sufficient funding from the private sector

http://www.marketforces.org.au/campaigns/ffs/

I note ttbn is sprooking his Hansonite racists nonsense, this time about Africans. "Only the superior whiteman can handle those stroppy blacks". Right ttbn!

Bazz,
if you follow the science we are breaking records and weirding out the seasons all the time. This year's rainfall beat the triple La Nina rains of the 1950's by October. Again, by October! And we've had record breaking floods in November!

Also, yes conventional oil peaked some ways back. The Fracking will give them some time, and if they got into the Coal-To-Liquids revolution the way the Nazi's did in WW2, then the 'oil' industry can even burn coal. That would create peak all fossil fuels within a short period - and then if there wasn't enough alternative energy infrastructure deployed in time - it would take severe rationing to have the energy to create the next energy system.

But burn ALL the fossil fuels and you'll be exposed to wet-bulb killer heatwaves with many parts of the equator simply becoming hostile to human life for months of the year at a time - in some places all year round. Agriculture would collapse across most continents. War, mayhem, floods, famines... but don't let any of this sciencey stuff alarm you.

Oh and the sea level would rise 65 meters. So there's that as well.
http://www.popsci.com/burning-all-fossil-fuels-could-raise-sea-levels-by-200-feet/

MG

You might think you are dealing in 'facts', but facts need proving. Until you prove your facts to be true, they are just opinions generated on your own "echo chamber". You could think about broadening your reading to see what some other respected commentators and scholars think about your heroes, and how easily they are shredded.

Of course, you might be caught up in the popular movement that has it that there are different 'truths', in which case, you will have much in common with a brick wall, and all is lost - for you.

Max wrote: "Fossil fuel subsidies cost Australians a staggering $11.6 billion in 2021-22"

Yes Max I read the article the last time you linked it. Just saying it over and over doesn't make it more believable. The article lists a series of alleged subsidies. But none of them are indeed subsidies - they are just infrastructure spending which tangentially helps some coal/gas producers.

Its like claiming that building a road leading to an airport is a subsidy to Qantas.

Only the anxiously gullible would be swayed.

In 1990 the world had 1.0275 trillion barrels of crude oil reserves.
In 1998 the world had 1.1412 trillion barrels of crude oil reserves.
By 2008 it had GROWN to 1.4938 trillion barrels.
By 2017 it had GROWN to 1.7275 trillion barrels.
A year later it had GROWN to 1.7297 trillion barrels.
By 2020 it had GROWN to 1.7324 trillion barrels.

All these rises in reserves despite the increasing demand.

The reason?
1. new discoveries
2. Better technology meaning unrecoverable oil becomes recoverable.

We aren't running out of oil. We've got at least a century before it even starts to become an issue.

I know this is counter-intuitive but it occurs in all sorts of fields in all sorts of periods. We don't run out of a resource. We never run out of resources. Technically they are not infinite but practically they are because their availability is dependent on human ingenuity and that is infinite.