A "Lancet" survey of 10,000 16-25 year olds in 10 countries, including Australia, found that 84% of them were "moderately to extremely worried" about climate change.

Given that people of that age group have little knowledge, and little experience of life, it's a fair bet that it is not climate change itself (a perfectly normal and regular phenomenon) but the SCAREMONGERING and LIES about climate change and its causes that has them worried.

Fifty percent of these naive kids were feeling sad, anxious, angry, powerless and guilty. Seventy percent of them said that the future was frightening.

What terrible damage the climate maniacs have done to up and coming generations.

'Given that people of that age group have little knowledge'

There's your mistake right there

'assuming they don't have knowledge'

They must have a significant amount of knowledge...
- To think and speak as strongly and passionately as they do, right?

Dear Armchair Critic,

Correct. Most of the 16-25 year olds I know are pretty well versed in the facts around climate change. They are generally exposed to up to date science through their schools and universities and have open enquiring minds. They are far less captured by the politics and have been less exposed to old school rightwing media thus able to assess the facts rather than the spin.

They have every right to be concerned about their futures rather than the chooks on here who aren't going to be around when this thing gets hairy.

The planet is warming Gr, Gr. That is why we had snow falls in Victoria Yesterday not known in over 70 years according to the ABC. They do not get their facts wrong??

I wouldn't be too concerned about the young and their attitude to the great scare. At that age they have only been exposed to the fear campaign through their teachers and pop culture.

Churchill supposedly once opined "that anyone who was not a liberal at 20 years of age had no heart, while anyone who was still a liberal at 40 had no head. If there’s any truth to the observation, one wonders what to make of today’s college students."

But once these people get out of the clutches of public education and into the real world, they rapidly wise-up. Its one thing to he gung-ho for so-called green energy when someone else is paying the bill, quite another when you have a young family and get the next rate rise notice from your power supplier.

My experience with those in the 10-20 year age group is that they are surprised to hear that there is such a thing as a knowledgeable climate sceptic but open to hearing the alternate case.

While it is true that the job of government is to "...to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary" it is also true that reality gets a say in the discussion....eventually.

We all know that net-zero (carbon) is as unattainable as zero-Covid was. The generation that sees that trope collapse will be left askant as to what they been led to believe.

The current youth generation has plenty to worry about with regard to their future curtesy of the lockdown spending madness. Worrying about an extra few ppm of carbon in the atmosphere will and already is taking a back seat.

The human brain is not fully developed until the age of 25. We've all been there, but we were not smart - just smart arses. If you can't look back and cringe at some of the things you said, did, and thought before you were 30, you are well over the hill, and descending back into ignorance. You probably think that it would be OK for 16 year olds to vote.

My 16 year old granddaughter is more astute, and has a clearer understanding of the consequences of inaction on vital issues, like climate change, than the majority of old conservative fuddy-duddies who seem to have resigned themselves to a soon to be expiry date. I would like to think age brings wisdom, but not so, a young fool, simply becomes an old fool over time.

Dear mhaze,

As usual a correction of a claim you have made.

Churchill did not say that quote. Might be time to retire it from your bag of tricks.

http://winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotes/quotes-falsely-attributed/

Secondly you have handsomely made my point. Self interest ultimately triumphs over the science for some as they get older and the stresses of life impinge.

That is not a product of the science being any less valid.

Thank you.

SR

I wrote..."Churchill supposedly once opined..." [repeat..."Supposedly".

ie I knew the quote is disputed. Way ahead of you old boy.

Indeed that particular quote or versions of it are attributed to quite a few people, none of whom can be verified. I suspect it gets used so much because of how accurate it is.

"'Self interest ultimately triumphs over the science ..."

Wrong. The 'science' doesn't require net zero policies. Its the interpretation of the 'science' by some that does that. And every interpretation is based on self-interest. I see Germany is dismantling a wind farm to get at the coal beneath it because they self-interestedly want to be warm this year. The same type of thing will happen here as the lunatic net-zero policies really start to hurt.

In the end, nett-zero is a massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy (a bit like lockdown really) and slef-interest will call for a halt to that when it becomes untenable.

Dear mhaze,

Posting material you already new had a large question mark over it is kind of par for the course from you isn't it.

As is your breathless announcement that " Germany is dismantling a wind farm to get at the coal beneath it because they self-interestedly want to be warm this year."

This move is completely in response to the cutting off of gas supplies from Russia and the subsequent skyrocketing of prices.

The total number of wind turbines which will go is 7 which is a tiny number compared to the size of windfarms going in here in Victoria some boasting well over 200 turbines.

"The turbines in question are small by modern standards, erected in 2001 and boasting nameplate capacity of only 1.3MW, and the operational permit held by operator Energiekontor is due to run out by the end of 2023."

The average capacity of new wind turbines being installed is over 3MW and efficiencies over the last 2 decades have grown dramatically.

It really does come down to spin doesn't it, or "interpretation" in your language.

mhaze,

You are enabling a ratbag.

"Posting material you already new had a large question mark over"

It was to make a point....which obvious went over your head.

"It really does come down to spin doesn't it, or "interpretation" in your language."

More precisely it comes down to understanding the spin, which obvious goes way over your head.

When I grew up I had a children's book telling about Gypsies who might come at any time in their horse-drawn cart and grab children off the street, throw them in, paint their faces black then train them to perform in their circus, never to see their families again. It was quite scary!

Well that could indeed have happened some 100 years earlier and the adults knew that it does not happen any more, but well, if it served their purpose to keep their children off the street...

So what we need is to look at is the motivation why children are told such horror stories, true or false being irrelevant, they serve a purpose.

In this case, the most obvious purpose seems to be to make the children love the government by perceiving it as their "saviour".

"In this case, the most obvious purpose seems to be to make the children love the government by perceiving it as their "saviour".

That is the reason. Totalitarian governments use fraud to get control. But, if the fraud doesn't work, they will use force.

That wouldn't happen here? Don't forget Covid and the VicPol storm troopers. When Andrews runs out of other people's money - the latest trick is to replace the $15 million that was rightly removed from idiot netballers with public money - watch out!

Hi Yuyutsu,

The Christian Church used scary superstition on children, and gullible adults, to keep them under control. If you know no better what would scare you more than; "If you don't do as I say, you'll burn in the fires of hell for eternity." Me thinks that's a fairly strong inducement to toe the line.

Here's a hint about how 'smart' and easily led and scared kids are:

According to the OECD’s Program for International Student Assessment (PISA), in 2018, 20 per cent of Australian students had reading levels ‘too low to enable them to participate effectively and productively in life’, an eight per cent increase since 2003. And still rising.

Too dumb to "participate effectively and productively in life".

And that's the way our totalitarian politicians like it. The dumber people are, the easier they can be scared and controlled.