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Murder of Indigenous Women

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"No, it is racist when you impugn it is purely a indigenous cultural thing when the evidence illustrated that it plagues remote, isolated, services deprived and socially disadvantaged communities whatever the stripe."

Well said Steele, absolutely true, I have seen this first hand in my wife's community back home. Those with poor education, no money, unemployed, lacking in motivation, no opportunity, no self esteem, drugs and alcohol abuse, regardless of skin colour violence is often the first choice when faced with a confrontational situation, and given their circumstances, that's often. These perpetrators are unpredictable angry people, quick to lash out when confronted, and their victims are those closest, partners, children, relatives even neighbours. mhaze is wrong, many are extremely cultured, and socially well off, they have the same levels of family violence as does the rest of society.

BTW< back in the day, if a woman had a violent husband, she could complain to those men sitting in council, the tribal elders sorts would hear the complaint. These guys could, and at times did, impose penalties such as banishment on men, even had children placed in the care of other family members. Not today.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 31 October 2022 5:27:40 AM
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Foxy,

Yesterday you were pleading for more decorum...."Disagree without rancor. Please."

Barely 3 hours later you were wallowing in the rancour.

It'd be good if your actions more closely met your aspirations.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 31 October 2022 7:19:10 AM
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Final word...it is clear that aboriginal women suffer domestic violence and intimate partner death at epic levels completely out of proportion to the rest of the community. For example aboriginal women suffer DV related hospitalisation at rates 35 times the national level. Despite their efforts here, this level of DV isn't explained by anything other than culture.

The claim is that its all about deprivation. But the data shows little correlation between privilege and DV.

The efforts to correct this disastrous situation have been going on for decades with no effect. To avoid any thoughts of racism (oh the horror!) these efforts concentrate on factors that absolve aboriginals and their culture of any blame or agency in the violence.

But these efforts have utterly failed. Yet the thought of trying something different is a bridge too far for the woke. Especially if that something different addresses that failures of the native culture.

So aboriginal women will continue to be suffer violence, hospitalisation and death but at least the charade that it's got nought to do with the culture will be maintained....and that's more important than the welfare of the women.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 31 October 2022 7:38:49 AM
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mhaze,

Once again - you are being selective in assigning blame.

I've said that it is normal to react when being personally
attacked - hence my request for disagreement without rancor
on this discussion when I was being attacked for simply
citing information from a given source. Yet you saw fit to
criticize me, not him. Why is that?

We all know that there are people on this forum who enjoy
causing problems and they try to push poster's buttons.
These people are total pests and of course it is best to
either ignore them totally or walk away. I'll try to keep
on doing that - or as I've done in the past - resort to
satire, sarcasm, and humour. Which most of the time
doesn't work for obvious reasons - but I'll keep trying.

As for the murder of Indigenous women?

What a sad state of affairs. Our Indigenous problems run deep
in this country. Of course action is needed but this is not
just a "cultural thing." Take a look at the following:

http://crikey.com.au/2022/10/31/indigenous-children-jails-nt/
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 31 October 2022 8:11:37 AM
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All this constant virtue-signalling, arguing and ego-exercising will not save a single aboriginal woman from being murdered or maimed. It's been going on for 230 years of British settlement, and thousands of years prior to that. Governments with all their money and resources have failed - yet, bored and lonely people, anonymous nobodies, sitting in front of a laptop in their pyjamas, think that their pointless bullshite is relevant.

It's one thing to have an opinion - a good thing - but constantly arguing with someone else's opinion, with zero effect, is pathetic. A couple of you people really should get a life.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 31 October 2022 8:44:33 AM
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ttbn,

Then how come you're here every day?

Or does only your opinion matter to you?
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 31 October 2022 8:47:34 AM
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