Hi Maverick,

Labor is determined to keep its promises which include
many areas. I was merely trying to point out in reply
to your previous points that among all of its promises
the one to the Indigenous people is what we're discussing
here and while treaty and truth telling are on Labor's
agenda - it has made the Voice to Parliaments its highest
priority. Anthon Albanese has committed to holding a
referendum in his first term. That of course is no small task.

I apologise for not explaining it better to you.

Oh, thats OK Foxy. Understood now.

There's fair disagreement within and between fragmented Aboriginal movements.

This is as to whether a Black-White Treaty and/or Truth Telling Commission should Come Before, Follow or actually be Instead of a Voice Referendum.

Lidia prefers the political niche of Precede or Instead of.

This is partly due to her pragmatic concern that the Voice Referendum will be voted down and Aborigines will be left with nothing.

Mavs

Thanks for understanding.

The good thing is that Linda Burney, as I understand it,
has committed to working with the Coalition on the process
of providing the specifics for a Voice to Parliament.
She certainly has her work cut out for her. As I said
previously - finding a model that has the backing of not only
her political opponents but the broad sweep of Indigenous
society is a daunting task.

LIBERALS REACTING AGAINST ALBO'S EVERYONE - WITHOUT HARD INFORMATION - VOTE YES ON THE VOICE REFERENDUM AND JUST TRUST US!

Now that OLO rules now robo-time prevent everyone New Posting on Foxy's Voice to Parliament thread https://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9888&page=0

I'm using this Lidia thread to note:

The Guardian article "Liberals expected to give MPs freedom to campaign as they wish on Indigenous voice" of Nov 24, 2022 at http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/24/liberals-expected-to-give-mps-freedom-to-campaign-as-they-wish-on-indigenous-voice

"Peter Dutton says Coalition is still in discussions but sources say free vote is likely, in defiance of John Howard’s advice"

"The Liberal party is expected to allow members the freedom to campaign however they wish on the Indigenous voice to parliament referendum, defying advice from former prime minister John Howard.

There is a broad range of views in the opposition on Labor’s plan for constitutional recognition of Indigenous Australians, but even Liberal supporters say the government must give more information

about the voice and conduct a parliamentary inquiry before they could pledge their support.

“A joint select committee on the voice is the best way to ensure its success,” Liberal senator Andrew Bragg said.

“There are huge risks that need to be managed here. It would be the best way to counter misinformation.”

Senator Kerrynne Liddle, a key opinion inside the Coalition whom several members have said they will take guidance from on the voice, said she backed constitutional recognition but wanted the government’s plans “interrogated”.

The opposition leader, Peter Dutton, has so far resisted questions on whether Liberal members would be allowed to campaign as they wished on the referendum, expected by the end of 2023."

MUCH MORE at http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/24/liberals-expected-to-give-mps-freedom-to-campaign-as-they-wish-on-indigenous-voic

Hi Maves,

Get onto Liberal MP Stuart Robert he should be able to do something for you, well if he was in government that is. As he promised when he was running for office; "Citzens, people, voters, constituents, you little folk out there! When you elect me I'll be working night and day, yes working my fingers to the bone, for my mates in big business that is.....and you mob as well don't forget that..... ha, ha."

That's why we desperately need a federal ICAC, and that's why the Coalition opposed it for 10 years. CORRUPTION AT THE TOP!

And some here are concerned what Lidia Thorpe says. She's a non issue. when it comes to this stuff even Hanson is honest in my opinion, can't say that for some Coalition members.

Hi Paul

I have no love for the ex-Coalition - and voted against them accordingly.

Yep, too many ex-Morrison Ministry carpetbaggers still haunt.

Mavs