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Extinction of Species

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"There is also an unequal distribution of resources."

Yep, but that's due to geopolitics/religion- not population size. The hungry people in the world are mainly found in countries with authoritarian regimes that aren't liberal democracies. Or in intolerant societies where one group of people simply refuse to get along with the group next door. Or crazy religious people who breed because their religious leaders told them to instead of making wise choices about limiting their family size to the number of mouths they can personally provide for. But despite this, overall there is more than enough food in the world today to adequately feed every living person.

"While many people are obese, many are also going hungry."

Well obese people are fat because they keep shoving food in their mouths and don't get enough exercise. Skinny people (besides those with eating disorders) are hungry mainly due to politics/religion as described above.

"We cannot continue our present rate of consumption and reproduction."

We certainly can continue with our current rate for quite a while yet.

"It is unsustainable."

Yes, it is unsustainable- but like the gold fish example above this doesn't matter much.

"Crunch time is coming, and it will be most unpleasant."

No it's not and it won't be.
Posted by thinkabit, Thursday, 13 October 2022 7:07:36 PM
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In case you missed it, The Living Planet Report 2022 has just been published. It claims :

« The Living Planet Report 2022 is WWF’s most comprehensive study to date of trends in global biodiversity and the health of our planet. The latest flagship publication reveals global wildlife populations have plummeted by 69% on average since 1970. The staggering rate of decline is a severe warning that the rich biodiversity that sustains all life on our planet is in crisis, putting every species at risk – including us »

Here is the report :

http://wwflpr.awsassets.panda.org/downloads/lpr_2022_full_report_1.pdf

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 14 October 2022 9:12:32 AM
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We're told that "Every 5 years the Australian government
releases a comprehensive assessment of the state of our
environment. It's where we find how healthy - or sick-
our animals, forests, rivers, oceans, climate, communities,
and cities really are. The new report is out and unfortunately
it reveals even further declines in the health of our
incredible plants, animals, and ecosystems.

http://acf.org.au/state-of-the-environment-report-explained-2022
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 14 October 2022 10:09:30 AM
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How many species (plant, mammal, fish, bird) exist in Australia now?

Answer: around 600,000 give or take.

How many species (plant, mammal, fish, bird) existed in Australia when Cook arrived?

Answer: around 600,000 give or take.

How many species have gone extinct in Australia since 1788?

Answer: 100.

100 out of 600,000. Get a grip.

Its all smoke and mirrors. Its all about funding, careers, politics. We are given links to 'reports' from the Conservation Foundation and the WWF both of which highlight the "donation" button on their homepage. That's what it all about.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 15 October 2022 7:38:17 AM
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Scientific American tells us that there is a rise of
extinction deniers. "Just like the climate deniers,
they're out to obfuscate and debase the scientists and
conservationists trying to save the world and maybe get
rid of a few pesky species in the process."

What does all this serve?

" Obviously just as with climate denial - the more you
deny that extinctions happen or that they're a problem,
the more you can drill, blast, pave, extract, or
eliminate all - so you can remove any barriers to your
"freedom" and make as much money as you want."

Perhaps it is this kind of mindset that needs to go extinct?

There's more at:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/extinction-countdown-rise-of-the-extinction-deniers/
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 15 October 2022 11:59:57 AM
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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S000632071930895X?via%3Dihub

There were 100 documented extinctions in Australia since 1788. Them's the facts, but if you don't want the fact to be a fact then just start throwing around the ad hominems.

It seems that anyone who disagrees with the latest scam becomes a 'denier'.

On the other hand, maybe they're not a denier, just more interested in facts than the feelz.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 15 October 2022 12:51:57 PM
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