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Extinction of Species

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"The following link gives us a 10 facts about
deforestation in Australia"

From the site it seems that the most important 'fact' is that you have to DONATE to the Wilderness Society.

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The UN's Food and Agricultural Organisation has been tracking forests for decades.

Some Facts from them....

* Australia ranks number 6 in total forest area.
* Australia ADDED (yep added) 4.5 million (yep Million) hectares of forest in the decade to 2020.
* That is the second highest increase in the world.
* Australia ranks in the top ten countries for forest in protected areas

All good news.

But you can't elicit donations by telling good news.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 9 October 2022 1:03:11 PM
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Good Heavens!!
A factual post about the Wilderness Society.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 9 October 2022 2:00:53 PM
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Perhaps this may provide further explanation:

http://acf.org.au/state-of-the-environment-report-explained-2022
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 9 October 2022 2:12:51 PM
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The problem with relying on the internet for information is that Google and other Big Left Tech search engines have what they want you to think at the top, and it's a long and tedious task to wade through Big Tech Left preferences for other views and opinions. Alternative information and views are available, but usually down too deep for lazy researchers merely looking for confirmation of their own opinions. This is why I never look at the 'references' provided by lefties - the biggest abuses of information - because I know that they will be written by someone who merely thinks the way they do.

I watched a smug UN activist proudly explaining this to an interviewer a couple of days ago. I already knew this, as I'm sure other aware right of centre posters here are. I won't read the things and I certainly will not use them. There are plenty of real, known authorities to go to for information more reliable than Big Tech.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 9 October 2022 3:41:59 PM
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What I find extraordinary is that the world's leading organisation as regards forest cover, with decades of experience and a significant budget to boot, has confirmed that there is no DEforestation in Australia, but instead REforestation. Normally the woke would swoon at the findings of a UN based organisation.

Yet despite the FACTS as laid out by the FAO, the green organisations in Australia continue to just assert that we are deforesting.....and some believe it.

Facts be damned.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 9 October 2022 4:13:11 PM
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Dear mhaze,

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I wrote :

« It is estimated that 1 million animal and vegetable species (1 in 8) will become extinct in the short term »

And you replied :

1. « The report says 1 million are 'threatened' »
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You’re quite right, mhaze, mea culpa ! I was reading the report in French and wrongly translated that phrase. I should have written : “It is estimated that 1 million animal and vegetable species (1 in 8) are threatened with extinction in the short term”.

That said, I’m rather dubious of your interpretation of “short term” meaning 50 years. One in eight animal and vegetable species may well be threatened with extinction over that 50-year time scale you calculate, but I wouldn’t refer to it as “short term”.
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2. « These claimed 'threatened' species numbers are based on models, not observation. They have been making it up for decades but never got within cooee of the facts. The real result of these reports are attempts to convince governments to keep the funds flowing »

I suppose that’s possible, mhaze, but I can’t help thinking it’s the sort of thing climate deniers have been saying for years about global warming. Perhaps you could provide a little more information to back up your statement.

You say : “they have been making it up for decades”, but as I indicated in my previous post, the IPBS was only created in 2012 (10 years ago) by 139 governments. The report is the result of 4 years of research by 85 experts in more than 50 countries.

Are you suggesting that the whole thing is just a vast hoax to swindle money out of those 139 governments and that the 85 experts in more than 50 countries are all crooks and liars ?

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 10 October 2022 5:31:00 AM
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