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Aidan,
Australia imports a significant amount of natural gas, much of it produced in Australia.
We are, as far as I know, the only country in the World that exports gas and then imports gas, Google ‘ Australian gas imports’.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 13 October 2022 3:56:01 AM
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Is Mise

We appear to also be the "only country in the world" mismanaged by complete idiots. The gas thing is one example; the other is that, while Europe has made foolish mistakes by listening to liars, they are now trying to rectify their stupidity, whereas Australian idiots, having seen what happened in Europe, are hell bent on committing the same atrocity here.

People can't get more stupid than that; too stupid to be able to rectify what they have done to us when they finally get the message - if they ever do.

Australia, once the Lucky Country, is now the Stupid Country.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 13 October 2022 9:41:36 AM
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Once the world transport has been converted to battery, how big a hole will be created to produce the battery? How long will the Earth sustain reaping the minerals for future batteries? Batteries are a short-term fix.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 13 October 2022 10:30:17 AM
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Josephus: "Once the world transport has been converted to battery, how big a hole will be created to produce the battery"

Not a very big hole at all. Here's a challenge for you: try and find an existing mine on google maps but using sight alone. ie: don't ask it to place a search pin at the location of a mine rather you have to visually search for it by zooming in on the global map with your own eyes. I'll bet that you will only be able to find mines that you already know where they are. If you don't already know where a mine is then they are difficult to find. And that's because mines cover an insignificant percentage of the planet's surface area.
Posted by thinkabit, Thursday, 13 October 2022 10:57:14 AM
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"Always remember that IC vehicles can be run on wood gas and wood is a renewable resource". Is Mise

Yes Is Mise, I am looking for a 30s carburetor car such as a 36 dodge, with really tough mechanicals, & a simple fuel induction system to convert to wood gas. I will use it for fun, & keep it for emergency transport.

To my knowledge no one has worked out how to use wood gas with a fuel injected engine.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 13 October 2022 10:59:09 AM
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Hasbeen,
I was intrigued by your last comment so I investigated further. Although wood gas is not itself suitable for fuel injection (due to the large volume required as its energy density is low) it can be used with fuel injected engines. Dual fuel engines seem to be the best way to exploit wood gas on a domestic scale.

On an industrial scale, of course, it's better to refine the wood gas to produce a more energy dense fuel.

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Is Mise,
>Australia imports a significant amount of natural gas, much of it produced in Australia.
Much? Don't you mean all?
Though Austraia imports some LPG from the USA, the natural gas is all from beneath Australia and the surrounding sea. However a small proportion of it is from over the East Timorese maritime border, so is classed as an import.

Austraia is not the only country that both imports and exports natural gas; the UK and the Netherlands are other examples.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 14 October 2022 3:37:22 PM
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