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$47,000 Battery

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Is Mise

The first car in my family was a 1949 Hillman Minx. Prior to that it was walk or cycle; there was no public transport in my country town, apart from a steam train to seaside holidays.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 6 October 2022 6:31:25 PM
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Thanks to the Greens, emissions are skyrocketing ! The green technologies are highly polluting in their production !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 6 October 2022 10:44:44 PM
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There is one major fact that almost no one mentions.
The drive for electric cars has NOTHING to do with global warming.
The first hint of why EVs are coming was noticed in the
CEO of Royal Dutch Shell address to the AGM at the Hague in 2017.
He announced that the company had formed a group within the company
to study how the company is to exit the oil industry.
That announcement disappeared from Google searches about a year later.
Around the same time BP changed its motto to Beyond Petroleum.
The reason Shell gave to the shareholders was that the cost of search
for new fields and their development had become prohibitive.
The Shell company has been restructured into a single company now only
registered on the London share registry.

Around two years later a group of motor manufacturers, GM, Ford,
Hyundai, BMW, Volkswagen, Reno and others announced their intention
to introduce EV models. A couple of years later almost all of them had
announced they would be ceasing petrol and diesel cars manufacture.
Not a co-incidence I venture to say. Someone had whispered in their ears.

At the time of these announcements Nissan and Mitsubishi had been
producing EVs and selling them in Australia.
The last I heard about battery replacement batteries was the Nissan Leaf
battery was around AU$8000 to replace, but that was a few years back.
As far as the battery life is concerned Lithium batteries last longer
if you do not use fast chargers normally, and charge them from 10% to 90% overnight.

So to sum up EVs are coming ready or not !
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 10 October 2022 11:39:06 AM
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Apart from the cost of the batteries, the lithium required for the number EV's said to be necessary is 1.3 billion tonnes. There is not that much lithium in reserve now, and it is unlikely there ever would be. We are also short of nickel and cobalt
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 10:49:31 AM
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Always remember that IC vehicles can be run on wood gas and wood is a renewable resource.
Steam vehicles also and we regularly use our steam traction engine for plowing and haulage work.
It’s not as convenient as the diesel tractor but it’s more fun, warmer in winter and not smelly, besides which it’s better for cooking and making tea.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 2:07:13 PM
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Great Idea Ise Mise, but I wonder if we could grow enough trees that
grow quickly enough.
Of course some are pushing hydrogen.
Trouble there is if you use electricity to make the hydrogen it is
much more efficient to use the electricity before making hydrogen.
Hence better batteries needed.
Posted by Morse, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 4:09:34 PM
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