Hi Foxy

Glad you and your brother may prove true groupies of Beaker van Beethoven.

Ode to Joy http://youtu.be/VnT7pT6zCcA is just the beginning of Beaker's squeak to fame.

Reckon young Beaker will replace Elton, Barry Gibb, Mick J, even Paul Mc, in this musical world of muppets, men n women.

Yes siblings shuffle in posis and feelings. Mine are a bit more distant. Following family traditions, we're all fairly standoffish though self reliant.

BTW my Granfather did his doctorate in Aboriginal health. But in those days First Nationals (coined here first) were considered more specimens for study than poeple. Things change.

Mavers

Wringing of the Beaker http://youtu.be/ysIzPF3BfpQ

Hi Foxy

Hope you get better soon over your 4th Covid jab.

Every 3rd person I've talked to has had a bad reaction to their 3rd or 4th jab. So its probably unpredictable "pot luck" unfortunately.

Mavers

"I've had a bad reaction to the fourth booster shop that
my husband and I received on Tuesday afternoon."

That's terrible Foxy, I'm glad you're doing a little better.
I may be on team unvaxxed, but I feel genuinely sad every single time I hear about people dealing with vaccine side effects.
(And I've heard of quite a few now, from hospitalised teenagers to the sudden deaths of older people.)

My objections were that I never trusted these vaccines.
They don't inoculate, have too many side effects and haven't been studied long term.
That's enough for me to think they fail to rate as being neither safe or effective, end of story.

Adults can make their own decisions regarding life choices and issues surrounding their health,
- but kids need adults to make the right choices and protect them from harm, and to that, (jabbing the kids) I say no.

Hope your health continues to improve in the coming days.

Hi Foxy,

"Yesterday afternoon I started coughing and spewing up, had a runny nose, and the shivers. I eventually took Panamax which helped and
also some throat lozenges - Difflam - which got me through, I still feel a bit weak - but now much better."

How can you be sure it was side effects from the vaccine? Your symptoms sound very much like a respiratory infection.

The side effects from the vaxx are these;

chest pain.
pressure or discomfort in the chest.
irregular, skipped heartbeats or 'fluttering'.
fainting.
shortness of breath.
pain when breathing.

I had much the same symptoms as you last week, and I had my 2nd booster shot at the start of June.

p/s My younger brother, unvaxxed, has been sick for 6 weeks with Covid.. Getting better now so he tells me.

Paul, my girlfriend has a list of known side effects written on a T-shirt she ordered, (and that list came from Pfizers own documents) There's far too many known side effects to list in a single message. From 17 year olds in hospital for 3 weeks, single mums having strokes, and plenty of older people here today and gone tomorrow.
It's all our own job to make decisions regarding our health, covid or no covid. I don't begrudge the oldies wanting to play it safe, but my opinion is that the side effects are potentially far worse than the virus itself.

And the vaccine isn't a vacinne, it's a gene therapy.