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Politicians Out of Touch with Australians on Energy?

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"First the Ukraine, then Romania
Followed by Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania"

A domino theory for the 21st century (minus the intellectual rigour that supported the 20th century version). And naive in the extreme. The warmongers are on a roll. The arms manufacturers appreciate your efforts on their behalf.

There isn't the slightest chance that the nations mentioned will be next on the list. All are NATO members. Russia can't even manage to overcome a corrupt, weak, kleptocracy like Ukraine. Even if Russia wins it'll be years before their winnings are consolidated. The cost to Russia has been enormous.

If Russia takes on a NATO member it'd all be over in a month with the Russian army being utterly destroyed. Even Putin isn't delusional enough to think he'd stand a chance.

But whenever the war drums beat there are always a cheer-squad who naively leap on board. And often they are women.

They claim to adore peace but are the first to exult war.

Even if any of the claims about Russia taking on NATO are true (and they're all rubbish), its got precisely nothing to do with Australia.

The world is careering down the road to economic heartache and its partially due to the Ukrainian War. If Putin doesn't turn the Nord Stream gas back on on 22/7 the true idiocy of the west throwing its weight behind Ukraine will be revealed for even the most naive to see.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 16 July 2022 5:56:12 PM
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mhaze,
Can't help thinking you're right on that one !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 16 July 2022 8:10:08 PM
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There are many who disagree.

Today, Sunday, 17th July 2022 at 2.30pm
at the Palais Theatre, St Kilda, Melbourne,
there is to be a - GALA CHARITY CONCERT
FOR UKRAINE. It will be an Extravaganza
of Ukrainian, Polish, Latvian, Lithuanian and
Estonian folk dance, music, song and choral
performances, including the fabulous, -
"Lost Clog," (Pamesta Klumpe).

Tickets are available from Ticketmaster and all
proceeds will be donated to the "Ukraine Crisis Appeal."

Everyone is warmly invited to attend.

People whose families have experienced life under the
occupation of the Soviet Regime know what the loss of
liberty is like and why it is worth fighting for. Just
as Winston Churchill knew that fighting for his country
was worth the fight - when he considered the alternative.

Anyone who does not understand that - has obviously
never experienced the loss of their country, family, or
identity. The close to 40,000 Ukrainians living in this
country agree. They are asking for help in the fight
for their country's freedom. And we as freedom loving
people have a moral obligation to help. It's them today
it may well be us needing help tomorrow! We need to
stand by our principles.

Vigilance if the price of liberty.

The measure of our society over history is our fidelity to
our principles. We must remind our government and our people
to remain faithful to those principles or otherwise our
society, like so many in the past, will be swept on the ash
heap of history.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 17 July 2022 10:24:08 AM
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Hi Foxy,

I totally agree, many Australians with peace and goodwill in their hearts for Ukrainians affected by this horrible war will give generously to help. Money raided I hope will be used for much needed non-military, humanitarian aid to those affected so badly.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 17 July 2022 10:50:09 AM
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Jim Chalmers has naively welcomed the rumour that China might lift some of its trade bans against us, unaware of the fact it would only happen because China itself finally needs what we have to boost its economy while we are ruining ours with net zero fever.

So fast is the Chinese economy increasing, that it is now using more coal than Australia digs up each year. The BRICS countries China has been using instead of Australia are apparently not keeping up.

There will be no changes to the the totalitarian Chinese Communist Party, which will continue trying to blackmail us into 'respecting' them.

How on earth can anyone respect Communism and its vile treatment of people! It's hard to believe that a democratic country could ever do that.

But, with our new ALP Socialist regime, anything could happen.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 17 July 2022 10:50:59 AM
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I agree with mhaze in respect to Putin taking over any other European countries other than Ukraine, I don't think he has any intention whatsoever of do so.
- But that doesn't mean I don't think he won't nuke Europe the UK and the US if it comes to it.
I think he's quite prepared to do so if the west continues to press him, or push him too far.
That is if they wish to contain or destroy Russia in any way.

The US overthrew the country in 2014 and has tried to make it a NATO country.
That was the red-line for Putin and Russia.
The US would not accept Russian or Chinese bases in Mexico or Cuba, Russia is just playing by the same rules and expects the same terms as the US expects for itself.
http://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/monroe-doctrine
The US screams about being a defender of democracy and nations sovereignty, but it doesn't play by the same rules.
It overthrows countries as it chooses and places military bases all over the planet.
- Even now it's still stealing oil from Syria.

The US can't stop other countries buying Russian oil and gas,
Do you know who's been buying a lot of Russian oil?
It may surprise you to know that Saudi Arabia is buying a lot of it for domestic use, so they can sell their own at the higher price.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 17 July 2022 10:53:57 AM
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