The results of the 2021 Census were recently released and the usual interpretation, reinterpretation and data dredging is proceeding apace.

I've read people crowing that even less folk identify as Christian with others crowing that Christianity remains by the far the largest religion. Some say that those who identify as Christian are the core believers while still others say that those ticking the Christian box don't really believe it.

Lost in the release was a quiet announcement from the ABS....

http://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-statements/abs-statement-2021-census-non-binary-sex-count

People were asked their sex - male, female, non-binary. The non-binary response is to be suppressed.

Now colour me sceptical but I'm pretty sure that had the numbers identifying as non-binary been anything like what that community claims them to be, then the numbers would have been released and 4-Corners would already be scheduling several episodes to discuss it. Obviously the numbers identifying as non-binary weren't what that crowd hoped and therefore the result had to be squashed.

The ABS says it will do further 'research', "in consultation with key stakeholders in the LGBTQI+ community" and will release the numbers 'later'. Translation - we'll work out how to fudge the result and release the approved answers after the LGBTQI_WTF community give us permission to do so.

In 1937, the Russian census found that the country had around 10 million fewer people than anticipated. (Hint: they'd died in the Holodomor and the Great Purges). The leadership of the censor bureau were arrested and disappeared into Siberia, never to be heard of again. The new censors ran a new census in 1939 and came up with the 'right' answers.

We don't yet send those who come to the wrong conclusions to our hinterland, although most now know such an error is dangerous to one's career.

Part of the problem navigating the facts in the current world, is working out what you're not being told and why it's being hidden. In this case, the reasons are easy to discern. But often that isn't the case.

I agree. Had the non-binary numbers been at all significant, we would have heard about nothing else.

There is probably no questioning the massive drop in the number of people identifying as Christian. It coincides with a massive spike in the number of people with mental health issues.

Other religions are on the rise: Hinduism, Islam, Climate Hysteria, Wokeness.

How long before Australia is either a Hindu or Muslim nation ? Or even a no religion Nation !

Indy,
Australia has long been a no religion nation. It will never be Hindu or Muslim.

Indyvidual

Indians, Arabs etc. have brought their religions with them; and those two religions are increasing here, while Christianity is dying, although still the main faith. Given the mania for mass immigration, and the fact that it is only people from Third World countries who are prepared to come here and do work that Australians refuse to do, there will be even bigger rises in 'Eastern' religions. There will be little competition from Christianity in post-Christian Australia.

We must remember that a lot of the Indian migrants are Christians and come from a Portuguese or British background.

People who think religion has nothing to do with the future of the Nation is missing the point.
I'm definitely not religious but I'll always consider myself Christian because I can't see either Hindu or Muslim authorities performing any better here than in Hindu or Muslim countries once they have the numbers. Mind you, looking at Christian nations doesn't exactly give me enough confidence not to worry !
Where the problem is that due to silly Democracy Australia will have to yield to those with the greatest membership & most fanatical mentality because faith has absolutely nothing to do with it !

A much more disturbing revelation in the census is the news that there are now more people living here who were either born overseas or have at least one parent born overseas

Well personally, I'm both outraged and not the least bit surprised that inconvenient parts of the census are being suppressed.

When the bureaucracy (and remember this was a decision made by the deep state, not the parliament) can simply decide to withhold data from the census, you know you are at their mercy. When the figures are indeed released they will be completely compromised but presented as unassailable truth.

We are required to complete the census at the risk of prosecution. Yet the state can simply decide to hide data that they'd prefer us not to know.

Proceed accordingly.

Amid the shrieking about 'colonisation' and 'invasion', white, Anglo Australia has been actively bringing the same fate down on itself. How stupid!

The legacy of the history and tradition of Western tradition is either ignored or cancelled in Australia. There is no longer a sense of identity in Australia.

A recent survey revealed that half of Australians asked would not even fight for Australia. I suppose it could just be coincidence that half the people here were born overseas, or had parents born overseas. There is no interest anymore in the assimilation or integration of newcomers.

ttbn,
At one time all European Australians were born overseass and for the next 100 years or so the majority were born overseas or their parents were.

What incentive is there for anyone to fight for Australia? Welcome

Yes Is Mise, & then they combined to become Australian. The result was so strong we absorbed the 10 pound poms, the Greeks & Italians, & made them all Australians.

Then the rot set in, with governments bringing in so much garbage in the last 30 years, it has been impossible to make the influx Australian.

Both I, 60 years ago, & my son 28 years ago voluntarily Joined the defense forces to defend the country of our birth. There is no was you could get us to fight for the rubbish it has become. The country of our birth has been destroyed, replaced with something definitely not worth fighting for.

Multiculturalism. Different values. People of different cultures were never meant to be together en masse. There's nothing wrong with people of different cultures per say, but they/we are all more comfortable among our own kind, no matter what social engineers say; difference and division, group identity, identify politics, divide and rule: it's all part of the plan. And it's too late to do anything about it now.

Religion should have no place in the running of a country. There's a reason for the separation of Church and State and the last time it was tried was called The Dark Ages for a reason.
Recent events in the USA demonstrate what can happen when the administration is captured by evangelical zealots with a specific agenda and indications are there is much more to come.

This country would be in dire straits if it wasn't for immigration as post-COVID economic conditions demonstrate. It's always been a Ponzi scheme that needs a growing population and the Anglo heritage population simply isn't up to the job. We can't even pick enough fruit to feed ourselves let alone fill certain job vacancies and it's primarily immigration that has been providing our economic growth for decades.

A white pure-bred Christian Australia for locals only is very much the philosophy of another group in the USA. At one time One Nation shared exactly the same ideas as the KKK except for drug-testing of welfare recipients but now they've taken that on-board too.

The idealised fifties have been and are long gone and since replaced by a loss of the middle class, increased economic inequality and the deterioration of common support services due to never-ending tax cuts for the wealthy.

If you want to go back to another fanciful nostalgic era maybe we shouldn't have given women the vote or any rights to aborigines either.

"This country would be in dire straits if it wasn't for immigration as post-COVID economic conditions demonstrate."

We currently have the lowest unemployment for decades, due almost entirely to the lack of immigration since the pox from China arrived. Are we in favour of full employment for Australians?

If you want to go back to another fanciful nostalgic era maybe we shouldn't have given women the vote.

Wow rache has finally said something sensible.

"Religion should have no place in the running of a country".

I agree. It certainly should not, and does not in this country; although individuals might make decisions on their own beliefs.

It is culture and values, not religion, that is the problem. Multiculturalism is suicide.

Dear Hasbeen,

How's it going old cock? Good?

So you wouldn't bother fighting for the place now because its racial mix doesn't suit you.

Well hell, isn't that just peachy. You're on the teat of Medicare, a pension and no doubt a few other handouts but you would raise a finger to help out in time of threat?

Doesn't that make you even less a desirable new Australian?

And you have volunteered for just how much service to your country or anyone else SR? Part of the garbage.

What's happened to the forum?
It used to be so great
I couldn't wait to read and post
And be the first out of the gate

Then slowly things began to change
The 1950s were re-arranged
Those times were presented as being good
Times where so many were misunderstood

Things have certainly changed in OZ
People demanding rights in mobs
Making their voices loud and clear
No longer prepared to be treated as queer

So forget your hatred and don't denigrate
Your simplistic views are so out of date
If you yearn for Old England - don't confound
Pack your bags for Anglian bound

But you just may find that it too has changed
And this time things can't be re-arranged
This time you're not the pure Anglo be
But a poor colonial from across the sea!

Chatter, chatter, chatter
Give up on the clatter
Talk about things that matter
Like peace and harmony

Lets learn to live and let live
Pour the hatred down the sieve
Join our hands and stop the biff
As brothers that we are

We're all Aussies can't you see
We can choose our destiny
We can fight or make it great
Couldn't we all just live as mates?

Look at the Census and what it showed
By this forum don't be snowed
We're not all the same - we'll never be
We all have different histories

Live and let live we should foster
Surely we want this land to prosper
Many have died so we could live
Now it is time for us all to give!

Multiculturalism is responsible for the lack of Christianity and just about everything else that used to be important to us. Australia is now just a big rooming house for the rest of the world. We have more foreign-born residents here than any other country on the planet. The Census tells us that nearly 900,000 of them speak little or no English. What use are they? What happened to the "unfair" English test?

We continue to be a fractured, stupid country, getting worse, as businesses and politicians salivate for even more immigration, while working-age Australians sit on their arses on the dole.

The land down under we are told
Was simply stolen and not sold
It began its life as a white-man's land
When British Crims landed on its sand

The penal colony was really rough
It had to be 'cause life was tough
Its native people had no say
They were supposed to die and go away

Then people came from all the lands
They settled here and made things grand
But to this day there are some who still see
A return to the past of futility

However a return to the past will never be
The strength of this nation is its diversity
There's enough in this land for all to share
If you don't think this is true -
You'll never, ever be True Blue!

And talking about multiculturalism?

There's an interesting program on TV this evening_
"Australia in Colour," Chanel 34 (NITV) at 7.30pm
How Modern Australia grew out of a drunken penal colony.

How many of you know about NAIDOC Week.
It started life as National Aboriginal Week.
And has become so much more.
This year its from 3 - 10 of July.

I've re-written parts of the previous poem:

The land down under we are told
Was simply stolen and not sold
It began its life as a white-man's land
When British Crims landed on its sand

The penal colony was really rough
It had to be 'cause life was tough
Its native people had no say
They were meant to die and go away

Then new people came from all the lands
They settled here and made things grand
But to this day there are some who still want to see
A return to the past of futility

A return to the past should never be
Unless we share all of our history
Because our nation's strength is so diverse
Yet to which there's some who are still adverse

There's enough in this land for us all to share
But to make it work we need pollies who care
They need to adopt a whole new view
Which through bad and good times will see us through

If we are to continue to live and prosper
Pride in us all we need to foster
We need to acknowledge our true history
And not shroud the truth in fantasy
Make us the nation that we should be
A prosperous diverse country - girthed by sea!

Foxy,
Just to shew you that I read and appreciate your doggerel;

“A return to the past should never be
Unless we show all our history
Because our nation’s strength is so diverse
Yet to which there are some who are still adverse.”

You really ought to have used “averse” instead of “adverse”.

Not good for one who holds a Master’s to make such a basic mistake in English.

Is Mise,

I purposely did not use the milder term of averse.
which just means a dislike of something. I deliberately
chose the stronger term to indicate that these people were acting
against - and were having a negative and harmful effect -

In any case it was my preference - and my choice.
It should not concern you.

Is Mise,

I don't think in terms of prose
For me that's a style that's on the nose
I prefer rhymes that jingle
Words that are fun and make folks tingle

So please don't brush it off as doggerel
You seem unaware that it's often mockable
A Shakespeare is not what I'm trying to be
More a Roald Dahl - don't you see?

Is Mise,

Here we go - I've improved it just for you:

I don't think in terms of prose
For me that's a style that's on the nose
I prefer rhymes that jingle
Words that are fun and make folks tingle

So please don't brush it off as doggerel
Stop behaving like a pesky cockerel
A Shakespeare is not what I'm trying to be
More a Roald Dahl - don't you see?

Foxy,
Doggerel has a number of meanings, take the kindest one, it fits.

Every culture should have their own nation.

A government of the people by the people for the people.

Others are trying to destroy white people just because they hate white people- some are even suicidal- they'll go to hell.

White people have reversed their colony's for a "live and let live" policy- but now the colony's have become colonizers- perhaps a "live and let die" policy is safer. Alexander the Great claimed that spreading Greek culture to Persia would pacify them- and make them more civilized and stable- many White nations have transferred technologies to colonies- perhaps we shouldn't.

Thanks for the thread mhaze.

"Every culture should have their own nation". (CM)

That’s the way it used to be, until the manipulators came up with 'multiculturalism' - to be practised in white countries only, of course. Take whitey down a peg or two? Cheap labour? Marxist identity politics to bring down the West and capitalism? Who knows what goes on in the mind of lunatics, who have turned the entire Western world into a vast lunatic asylum.

We have meekly accepted multiculturalism, without fully realising that, as we celebrated everyone else’s cultures, we first neglected to champion our own, and then, even more unforgivingly, actively taught our young to be ashamed of it and to despise it.

Interesting that diversity and inclusion policies seems to favour and protect Indian's and Chinese treating them under legislation designed to protect minorities- but India and China are the most populous nations on the Earth- hardly minorities. These principles were partly designed to protect stateless peoples- India and China are nations of large land areas relative to other nations on the Earth- hardly stateless.

It seems there are other reason's for these principles.

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The Georgia Stone's situation is interesting- can't claim to understand it.