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Posted by david f, Friday, 24 June 2022 10:57:34 AM
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Dear David F.,
Thank You for raising this topic for discussion. Aboriginal Australians became genetically isolated 58,000 years ago, tens of thousands of years before other ancestral groups, making them the world's oldest civilization. There's more at the following link: http://allthatsinteresting.com/aboriginal-australians-oldest-culture Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 25 June 2022 3:58:32 PM
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Wikipedia describes a civilization thus:
A civilization (or civilisation) is any complex society characterized by the development of a political state, social stratification, urbanization, and symbolic systems of communication beyond natural spoken language (namely, a writing system). The Acropolis of Athens: Athens is widely referred to as the cradle of Western civilization and the birthplace of democracy. Civilizations are intimately associated with additional characteristics such as centralization, the domestication of plant and animal species (including humans), specialization of labour, culturally-ingrained ideologies of progress, monumental architecture, taxation, societal dependence upon farming, and expansionism. According to the above definition Aboriginal culture was not a civilization. Posted by david f, Saturday, 25 June 2022 5:59:47 PM
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According to Kenneth Clark, the Vikings weren't a civilisation either.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 25 June 2022 6:57:52 PM
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I think that maybe 50000 years ago the neanderthals used to hunt, rape, kill and eat our ancestors, but then we wiped them out.
- But I don't really know for sure as I wasn't there then. Darwin's DNA Dilemma http://youtu.be/DVu6ryEwF5w Neanderthal: Profile of a Super Predator http://youtu.be/mZbmywzGAVs Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 25 June 2022 8:53:45 PM
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Indigenous people have started to dispute the term "first" in regard to mainly European discoveries.
Being born in a region does not make one a discoverer. Setting out into the unknown with the aim to bring back information from yonder made early explorers the "first". That applies to Chinese, European & every other civilisation. People simply moving from one place after making it unliveable, to another place were not Explorers in the sense of the word. Exploring was done by civilisations seeking knowledge & trade. Ancient nomadic tribes simply looked for food first & foremost & as they gradually formed civilisations & designed & built settlements, they left legacies many of which are still evident to-date. Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 25 June 2022 9:07:22 PM
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Every human alive today is part of a living culture. Every human alive today has ancestors who were around 50,000 years ago. The difference between the culture of indigenous Australians and that of other human beings is that the cultures of most other human beings have had more changes, but every human alive today is part of a living culture that goes back 50,000 years.