I think the word I was looking for was 'transcend', not 'transgress'.
Damn, there goes 'sensible'.
I guess nobody's perfect.

AC,

I am as guilty as anyone here of letting my emotions get the better of me. I agree with your comments and think the height of achievement I could have on this forum is to have pleasant exchanges with people I disagree with passionately. I wouldn't have time to follow all your links, but I appreciate the efforts you go to in making your arguments.

Cheers

Fester

True. This is why I have ceased to respond to certain posters. In fact, I no longer see the point in responding to other posters at all, unless they are of the same mind. I am as sure as Hell not going to change my opinions just because someone else objects to them, and it has been quite obvious over the years that others think the same - the difference, of course, being that some of them think that I and others will suddenly agree with them. There is no point arguing the toss with anonymous posters who use the anonymity to try to counteract their real-life-loser status. They wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life. Stick to the subject, and no chat is the way for me in future. Fingers crossed:).

ttbn,

I do see people in real life with some extraordinary opinions and ideas. I think it takes effort to think about things and form an opinion, so in that sense any person willing to do as much is commendable. I have had conversations with fathers with their kids present and notice the kids wanting to sink into the ground when dad turns into conspiracy dad. I think they want to be respected as people more than they would wish to change opinions.

The reality is those who control the oil (and other resources) control the world. When a substitute is found there is no reason to do anything that anyone else says and the world will become more unstable and dangerous. The UN was supposed to stop WWIII but it may cause it.

In Godfather III they say "power cannot be given" in Terminator they say "the only future is what we create" in both cases the ability to "act" is critical.

Without the ability to stop Chinese aggression in the world the world will submit to Chinese aggression.

I meant to say when "a free substitute" is found.