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Charles Might Destroy the Monarchy

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There is not a single reason for Australia to become a republic at the present time. The reasons for and against have been kicked around and argued about ad nauseum; there is no point in discussing them further. However, with Prince Charles now calling the UK's desperate attempt to stem the flow of illegal immigration "appalling", the Brits might knock the Monarchy on the head themselves.

Charles and William keep pontificating on immigration and climate, and lots of other political issues, like a couple of political hacks. They have not learned a thing from the Queen, whose popularity has a lot to do with her apolitical stance.

There is a childish belief among some monarchists that King Charles would stop shooting his mouth off as Prince Charles does. Yeah. Right.

Nigel Farage thinks that Charles will destroy the Monarchy, and he could be right. One King Charles was removed; the next one could go too, although not in the same way as Charles the First, perhaps.

The problem for Australia would then be solved without conflict and animosity because there would be no choice; not because of a juvenile whim. So, why don’t we wait and see? Let the country most affected by the royals sort it out. If the Crown shows that it is no longer worthy of the respect it has earned over the past 70 years, then that's the time to do something about it.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 9:48:01 AM
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"Charles Might Destroy the Monarchy"

- One can only hope for such an outcome.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 12:07:13 PM
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I watched the Platinum Jubilee Concert.

I watched David Attenborough's message flash onto the
IMAX screen about the environment, and I heard the
Queen's message about saving the environment and the
planet and of her being proud of both her son - Prince
Charles, and her grand-son, and her late husband Prince
Philip, Duke of Edinburgh - and their concerns about the
environment and the planet.

I heard the loud applause from the public. And so it went.

I doubt very much if Prince Charles will destroy the Monarchy.
It is after all based on hereditary. He will inherit the
British throne - and he will undoubtedly become king.
I can't imagine Britain without the Monarchy. And I'm sure
neither can most of the British people.

As for Australia?

The Australian people will decide for themselves - if and when
the time comes to do so. And that is something that even the
Queen approves of. She has made it clear in the past - that it
was up to the Australian people to decide what they wanted.

Here is a link of the Queen's message on the environment -
on another occasion - part of which was played on the
screens at her Jubilee concert:

http://royal.uk/queen's-speech-cop26-evening-reception
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 12:54:12 PM
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My apologies. Here's the link again to her speech:

http://countryliving.com/uk/news/a38130948/read-cop26-speech-full/
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 1:03:46 PM
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As they say- "The King is dead, long live the King".

Self discipline is a hard lesson to learn- and the frustration of believing you have something to offer but not being able to do it can be overwhelming- until you realise that there are many subtle ways of acting.

As the Queen advising the young Queen Victoria apparently said- "people need something to do that gives them meaning- and if they don't they start doing silly things." Learning and doing...

Leaders are both decisive and esoteric.

Long live Queen Elizabeth.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 2:11:44 AM
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Dear ttbn,

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You wrote :

« There is not a single reason for Australia to become a republic at the present time. The reasons for and against have been kicked around and argued about ad nauseum; there is no point in discussing them further. However, with Prince Charles now calling the UK's desperate attempt to stem the flow of illegal immigration "appalling", the Brits might knock the Monarchy on the head themselves »
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1. Judging by the time it took to establish our old colonial constitution which was enacted by the Parliament of the UK and signed by Queen Victoria and which continues to remain in force today, it would take about ten years for Australia to become a republic if we started the process immediately.

« [Our old colonial] constitution was drafted between 1891 and 1898, through a series of conventions conducted by representatives of the six self-governing British colonies in Australia. The final draft was then approved in a set of referendums from 1898 to 1900. The British government objected to some elements of the final draft, but a slightly modified form was enacted as section 9 of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900, an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. The act was given royal assent [by Queen Victoria] on 9 July 1900, was proclaimed on 17 September 1900, and entered into force on 1 January 1901 » (Wikipedia).
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2. Even if “the Brits knocked the Monarchy on the head themselves” as you suggest, that would not change anything for Australia. Since The Australia Act 1986, decisions in the UK have no effect on or in Australia. Australia would continue to remain a Constitutional Monarchy with Elizabeth II and her successors as our head of state.

If we want to become a republic, we must make the decision to do so ourselves.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 7:37:48 AM
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