Indy,

You always dodge that question as to why YOU avoided any kind of National Service for the country. At one time, you were 35 or under, an Australian citizen, physically fit I assume. You could have marched down to that army recruitment office, and joined up, doing your bit for Australia, but YOU chose not to, WHY NOT? Simple question.

Hi Paul,
"As a 'local' myself to the Alexandra Hills area of Brisbane, about 15km away, I was "shocked" with what I perceived as the leniency of that sentence in that particular case, maybe it needs further examination."
I live down at Vicky Point.

Watching the news today, there's a lot of things going on that raise an eyebrow.

Bullets fired into Gold Coast police beat
http://www.9news.com.au/national/queensland-bullets-fired-into-gold-coast-police-beat/9858199b-5ec8-42c4-ad35-f8ff7b3e54e1

Gold Coast family 'lucky' to be alive after bullet flies through their car in random shooting
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-08/coolangatta-car-shooting-random-lucky-couple-police-gold-coast/101134996

Gold Coast siege ends as police arrest two men after 20-hour standoff
http://www.9news.com.au/national/police-siege-locks-down-nerang-gold-coast/e1b5fd2d-490d-47d0-b576-ca7ebb0f7412

- And that's on top of the weak sentence given to the 17yo that ran that couple and their unborn child down.

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I grew up a little bit of a dysfunctional kid.
As a teenager I had no respect for authority.
I've been arrested for doing the wrong thing a few times in my life.
Smoking weed, drink-driving (I very rarely drink and don't smoke weed at all anymore) and a few other things I'm not going to share.
I even went to jail once, but it was for non-payment of fines.
On that occasion I did 11 weeks in a low security correctional facility to pay back $2200 in fines, and it was in my mid 20's - back around 1999.

I want to say that I don't know what the solution to all this is, but I do understand cause and effect.

I can tell you some of these kids will brag over whose got the biggest rap sheets as though it gives them clout.
They don't care about anything, and they know how to work the system.
They'll have their youth justice workers come in and say they had bad childhoods, subjected to whatever at home as kids, say they deeply regret their actions and the next day they are high-fiving their mates in Juvey, when they get a light sentence.

It seems that the path of this current human-rights agenda has become so slanted that they care more about the rights of the perpetrators than they do the victims.

I can't help thinking that the law has to REALLY make them sorry, before things will ever change, like maybe things were better years ago when the cops took them up a backstreet dished out a little bit of street justice of their own.

You know - he gets to the police station, with 6 cracked ribs, 2 back eyes, a broken nose, and kicked in the knee from the side so that they can never walk properly again, cops say, "He fell over"

- The type of punishment, where even to themselves in private they WISH TO GOD that they had never done what they did.

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I know its sounds bad, but you know what?
I know that more innocent people are going to be harmed by this slap-on-the-wrist mentality towards don't-give-a-shite adolescents who think it gives them more clout with their other don't-give-a-shite mates.

I just don't see things changing, and think things will only get worse.
Maybe they should go back to convict days with leg irons and hard labour, I don't know what the answer is.

On the other end of the scale, this 20 hour 'seige' with 2 people in Nerang last night and this morning.
- People forced to sleep in their cars and not go home, because they cut off their ankle bracelets...

It's ridiculous, people should at least go to a hotel and send the cops the bill if the cops can't deal with these situations.
They was no mention on the news of either of them being armed, so looking people out of accessing their own homes for such petty things seems just as outrageous as the light sentences for manslaughter.
I don't care if your a kid and you decide to steal a car and drive around off your face and you kill 2 people and a baby.

Going back to the first issue -
- Assuming he's been in trouble with police before;
12 months for stealing the car, another 12 months for dangerous
driving another 12months for doing it drunk or on drugs 10 years each for killing the couple and another 5 for the unborn baby.
If sentences were harsher, their might actually be less people in jail.
And some kind of hard labour as well.

I messed up and the above comment and it reads a little wrong
This:
"Going back to the first issue -"
- was meant to be before this
"I don't care if your a kid and you decide to steal a car and drive around off your face and you kill 2 people and a baby."
- not after it.

I had my car side window smashed in a few days ago & left the car doors ajar but nothing appears to be missing. the owners of the other cars broken into said the little craps were "only" looking for change & cigarettes.
That was my fitfh car broken into with the least damage. Three of the others were a write-off from Bush-bashing & another simply disappeared.
No-one can convince me that several months in a bush camp pulling weeds & knocking off cane toads with a spray of Dettol wouldn't give these parent-forgotten kids better ideas for life !
Any damage these little craps cause should need to be paid for by the parents as they more often than not have far healthier Bank accounts than I'll ever see !
Lazy parents are exploiting the morons in authority & we're stuck withe the little darlings.
Paul1405 always asks for evidence of others having served in a national service well, he should volunteer to pick up the tab for the folly of his role as a useless bureaudroid letting the young crims off every time !