I wouldn't call Paul1405 an "immovable mover".

Kudos Individual.

I don't know what worries so many Australians about the Chinese? Maybe the loud ones aren't Australian & only live here because it's better than where they came from ?
I've found on my minuscule macro scale of dealings with Chinese people that they provide excellent value with their services & goods unlike where I paid top Dollar for absolute poor service & poor workmanship with non Chinese.
It may just be high time for many to have a good long look into their mirror & check the receipts they write for their customers !

Indy, differences aside,

My Old Man said to me more than 40 years ago, the "Chow" isn't a bad bloke son, he'll not cheat ya, he's hard but he's fair. He knew the Chinese, his mother inviting Chinamen from the market gardens of Sydney into her front parlor to teach them English, much to the disgust of some neighbours, they were keen learners. It was important that a couple in each garden could speak some English, the "Head Man" could always speak fair English, his 2IC not so well, but a little, the others very little to none.

The Chinese gardens ran a "Communist" system long before Mao. According to Dad, a Chinaman came to Australia for 20 years to work for no pay, only keep, could have had a family back home, wife and kids even, worked for the 20 years, and then given an entire years profit from the Garden, returned to China to live a comfortable rest of life, replaced by a new man. According to Dad they all came from the same "village" in China. BTW nothing left the garden permanently, except the produce and one man a year, if you know what I mean. Lots more to the story, prostitutes and opium, but that will do for now.

individual,

The Sky News audience declared Albanese the winner.

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ttbn,

I wish that I could have seen the debate for myself
instead of relying on other's interpretations. It
would have been interesting to see both the questions
asked and the answers given first-hand.

I think that corruption is a bread-and-butter issue -
and it does impact on people's daily lives.

When taxpayer money that should be prioritised for things
such as - healthcare, aged-care, education, welfare,
disability support, and building a climate resilient country
is either cut or re-directed into the coffers of fossil fuel
companies or used for highly questionable projects in
marginal electorates the voters are aware they are missing out.

I think that people do want a federal ICAC - and it is one
of the top priorities in this election.

For his part the Labor leader has pledged to establish
a federal watchdog "with teeth" by the end of this year
if Labor wins the election.

I gather that when questioned in the debate about the Coalition's
broken promise the PM first tried to blame Labor but when that
didn't work - he had nothing new to say - and he changed the subject.

It would have been interesting to watch.

OOOOOps - sorry - wrong thread.

This should have gone on the "Compare the pair,"
thread.

Capitalism for the rich, Socialism for the poor