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Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 2:01:17 PM
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Shadow, last time I checked there was no evidence Hunter had committed a crime at all, let alone that Joe was involved. So do you have a reputable source for this "increasing evidence"?
Do you think the Republicans would really want Biden impeached? Wouldn't he be easier to beat in 2024 than Harris? Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 2:32:34 PM
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Biden won't be impeached. The deep state is way too powerful to allow one of their own to be held to account. At the very least, if Biden were to be in real danger, he can always simply claim dementia and exit stage left.
Remember these are people who were able to claim, without the slightest evidence, that the hard-drive was Russia disinformation and use those false claims to have all information about it suppressed. The end result was a stolen election. You say that the the FBI now have the laptop. They had it from the outset and were the main means that it was suppressed. They are neck-deep in the efforts to hide the Biden crime family's bribery. Their Cyber division hasn't even examined it. If the computer store owner hadn't copied the drive and given a copy to Giuliani this whole scandal would have never been known by the public. The FBI tried to kill the story. Its also too early to talk of the Republican's winning in November. While the polls show them easily in front, you have to add at least 5% extra votes to the Democrats to allow for the cheating factor. What's been learned since 2020 about the misuse of mail-in votes and vote harvesting via Zuckerbucks shows the extent of the cheating. Little has been done to avoid that this time. Indeed Colorado (?) has passed legislation to make it illegal to look into the integrity of the vote. Biden won't be impeached. I doubt Hunter will be jailed despite his obvious guilt. There are two sets of rules in the US. If Hunter was from the Trump clan, he'd already be behind bars, never to be released. But being in the right clan means you can get away with pretty much anything. ___________________________________________________________________ "Wouldn't he be easier to beat in 2024 than Harris?" That's hilarious. http://youtu.be/ZIrnKeR-Sm0 Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 4:41:16 PM
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Impeachment on what grounds?
Trump is the one that should be more worried, especially with Putin and his Russian financiers on the ropes and his endless legal hassles. Don't forget the mindset of much of the extreme right American population. The latest QAnon story is that Trump and Putin are secretly working together and the Ukraine invasion is just a cover to enable them to take out the biological weapons manufacturing underway in that country organised and run by Fauci. You can't argue with those people. Posted by rache, Thursday, 7 April 2022 12:23:50 AM
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Rache,
Trump was impeached even when there was no evidence of working with the Russians.. Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 7 April 2022 6:20:28 AM
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SM, you still haven't gotten over the defeat of your pin up boy and folk hero, Dangerous Doctor Donald. Another war crimnal in the White House, so what, I and millions of others don't care. For you its nothing that a stiff drink of diso as recommended by DDD won't cure.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 7 April 2022 6:21:24 AM
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Rache,
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/us/politics/hunter-biden-tax-bill-investigation.html Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 7 April 2022 6:42:43 AM
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Pauliar,
Just like you miss your hero Jonathan Doig after he got done for extreme paedophilia. "Billionaire philanthropist businessman Andrew "Twiggy" Forrest has lashed out at opponents of the cashless debit card aimed at curbing substance abuse in remote Indigenous communities, singling out the Greens in particular whom he branded "the party for paedophiles". So according to Twiggy, you are all accused incl your leader Adam (bum) Bandit. Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 7 April 2022 8:37:04 AM
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shonky,
You are one sick dude, paedophilia is a preoccupation of yours, seems you get off on it. Any right thinking person has to wonder about YOU! I could name one Liberal Prime Minister, now dead, who was a paedophile while in office, but what's the point. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 7 April 2022 9:02:55 AM
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Pauliar,
What is sick is how you are so desperate to cover up this disgusting and criminal side of your party. Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 7 April 2022 10:14:07 AM
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Lawmakers, congressional staffers and strategists
predict a slew of investigations targeting the Biden administration, particularly if Republicans loyal to former President Donald Trump gain important committee seats in Congress. Their actions are going to follow suit when House Democrats twice impeached Trump. Once over Ukraine and again for his actions ahead of Jan 6th riot - where Trump was acquitted by the Republican controlled Senate both times. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 April 2022 11:36:32 AM
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https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/04/03/editorial-the-hunter-biden-train-wreck-rolls-over-times-post/
"The Associated Press runs a weekly feature titled “Not Real News: A Look at What Didn’t Happen.” It’s a smug feature that sets a dangerous precedent. The report attempts to debunk junk swirling around on social media. But it’s easier to knock things down than it is to dig them up. Most journalists tend to focus on the latter. Let’s hope that never changes. That’s why this week’s admission by the New York Times and Washington Post is so telling. Both esteemed arbiters of all that’s proper to print in a polite society had to get down in the dirt and admit Hunter Biden is a train wreck. And that’s putting it as nicely as allowed in a family newspaper. The Washington Post — in an insulting headline — blasted Friday: “Here’s how The Post analyzed Hunter Biden’s laptop.” Yes, after the New York Post broke the story a year and a half ago. The DC paper has also offered up an explainer, for readers who need help wondering why this entire topic was treated as dog poop by so many for so long. In case we forgot to mention, Hunter Biden is the son of President Biden. The Times and Post should be ashamed. They do admit the FBI has Hunter Biden’s MacBook and the agency is investigating whether he properly reported income from business dealings. The Washington Post states some verified emails involved a deal Hunter Biden pursued with the CEFC China Energy conglomerate for which he was paid nearly $5 million. Other verified emails related to his work for the Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings, for which Hunter Biden was paid as much as $83,333 or a month, or $1 million a year, the New York Post states." Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 7 April 2022 1:33:55 PM
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shadowminister, you make yet another libellous claim that a Greens MP is a paedophile, having previously claimed on this Forum, a NSW Greens MLC was a paedophile. Provide evidence Forrest has branded all Greens paedophiles, otherwise it is ONLY YOU making that libellous claim. Despite previous complaint no meaningful action has been taken by this site against you. Yet I was suspended for 30 days for referring to another anonymous poster as an Islamophobe.
Your continuous calls that Greens, and naming Greens as paedophiles over the past 2 years you have been a Forum member, not only reflects badly on YOU but also on the Forum Moderator MR GRAHAM YOUNG. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 7 April 2022 3:09:15 PM
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 8 April 2022 12:49:12 AM
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https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/twiggy-snaps-branding-greens-the-party-for-paedophiles-20170811-gxucee.html
According to your logic by which you label Christian Porter an "accused paedophile" I can use the same logic against you. Technically you have now been accused. Suck it up. Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 8 April 2022 4:04:04 AM
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SM, in your 2 years of posting, and that's what your history shows, 50% of your posts have referenced paedophilia. Obviously you get off on the subject and as I said you are one sick dude. End of discussion.
In the case of Porter, he has got what he deserved, and thankfully will never darken the corridors of power again. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 8 April 2022 5:27:15 AM
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Pauliar,
Lying again I see. I see the same number of your posts refer to paedophiles, so you must be a sick puppy too. No one has yet provided any evidence against Porter. In fact, there is the same level of evidence against Adam (bum) Bandit. Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 8 April 2022 7:23:09 AM
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Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 9 April 2022 6:40:19 AM
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My goodness this is a scream.
Trump's son-in-law had a position created for him within the White House, was involved in policy formation which directly enriched him and his wife, was given high security clearance by Trump over the wishes of the security organisations, benefited in many other ways due to this overt nepotism, yet Biden's son is the epitome of evil. What a joke. Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 9 April 2022 10:40:08 AM
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Perhaps miner attracted people- MAP's- prefer small dark caves- very open minded in a sense- eccentrically selfish- perhaps Paul1405 is an apologist for the Village People- and Woke Communists are complicit in this culture- sadly we've been unable to ban them from our schools. Sometimes communities need small dark isolated caves for their protection. Sometimes MAP's prefer to operate in penumbra stealing from the light- sometimes exiled to the darkness. The irony of The Foreign Native Hollywood the darkness in the plain light- victims of a foreign invader. The deepest strangest night hides in the brightest homely light.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 9 April 2022 11:43:09 AM
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More on the Biden crime family's shenanigans...
http://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/04/07/grassley-drops-more-bombs-in-the-biden-scandal-n546639?utm_source=rsmorningbriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=c656400946da53cd886ca50d173f1f18564ef7a5ea28b59ac629c4bf49e8541d "CBS News has learned that +150 transactions involving either Hunter or James Biden’s global business affairs were flagged as concerning by U.S. banks for further review.....According to the records, which come directly from the banks, James Biden received $65,000 a month from a Chinese company connected to the Chinese government, totaling $780,000 through 2018. The records also showed that Hunter received money from the same company — $100,000 a month for the same year, in addition to a $500,000 retainer. That added up to $1.7 million from the firm in 2018. What exactly that was supposed to pay for isn’t clear." "Tony Bobulinski: “I have heard Joe Biden say that he has never discussed business with Hunter. That is false… At my approximately hour-long meeting with Joe that night, we discussed… the Biden family’s business plans with the Chinese, with which he was plainly familiar....The grand jury investigating Hunter Biden right now reportedly asked about “the big guy,” according to a grand jury witness." (for those who've remained blissfully ignorant of all this, the big guy is sleepy Joe.) Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 9 April 2022 2:20:37 PM
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Oh dear.
Quoting from "Redstate.com" is risky at the best of times. Tony Bobulinski is a Trump ally - The Wall Street Journal and other reputable sources have refused to give him media attention. The man's statements are to say the least - a bit suss. But these are tactics that the Trump camp and his supporters have used not only on Hilary Clinton - but now on Joe Biden. Truly shameful. The "Rolling Stone" tells us that: "The pig picture: Trump is accusing the Bidens of secretly doing what his family publicly does all the time." Tremenduous irony here. "President Trump never divested from his own businesses now run by his sons during his presidency. Trump properties have been notorious dens of influence peddling and enriching the entire family." "Trump had placed his own unqualified daughter and son in law in high positions in the white house, even as they continue to conduct businesses that benefit from the policies they shape." "The full extent of Trump's mixing of public and private business is impossible to decipher. The former US President has refused to release his tax returns. " "A New York Times investigation based on partial tax information the paper acquired shows Trump to be $421 million in debt, much of which is set to become due in coming years." "This gives creditors leverage on the former US President." "But because Trump keeps his finances opaque we still have no idea who his creditors are." Russian oligarchs? You betcha! Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 9 April 2022 3:46:25 PM
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Dear Steele,
It's not a joke. It's pathetic that scumbags like Trump and his supporters get into positions of power in the US. And by the look of things - it appears that the creep is intending to run again for the presidency. Hopefully he'll lose again. It will take decades for the US to recover from the damage done. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 9 April 2022 3:54:50 PM
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Dear mhaze,
Why is this so interesting for you? There are far more local fish to fry. Where was your outrage when Liberal minister Andrew Robb sold off the Port of Darwin to the Chinese and then left parliament to go take a "high level" position with the company involved to the tune of $800,000 per year? Or Alexander Downer who jump straight from the ministry to a position on the board of Huawei at $750,000 per year? Any comment or is your fixation with your president too over-whelming? Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 9 April 2022 7:26:39 PM
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That's pretty funny. The case against the Biden crime family is so strong that poor ol' Foxy needs to just make up lies about it:
- "Tony Bobulinski is a Trump ally". He's not political but prior to becoming persona non gratia with the Democrats he regularly donated to Democrat candidates and never to Republicans. Somehow Hunter and sleepy Joe selected this Trump ally (giggle!!) as the bloke who'd help them with their business dealings in China. Only someone as clueless as poor ol' Foxy could believe that. - "The Wall Street Journal and other reputable sources have refused to give him media attention." Except if you search the WSJ for Bobulinski you get 100's of hits. But the facts are immaterial to poor ol' Foxy. SR is so vexed by it that he simply tries to change the subject. Normally that's SR's last resort after he realises he's on a hiding to nothing. This time its his first resort. More news on the Biden crime family that the usual suspects will try to ignore.... http://dailycaller.com/2022/04/07/joe-biden-hunter-biden-laptop-business/ http://www.dailynews.com/2022/04/09/did-president-biden-know-what-hunter-biden-was-up-to/ Clueless SR (who demonstrated how little he understands international affairs in his 'contribution' to the Menzies sub-thread) asks why this is so important. As I've explained to tbbn previously, the fortunes and future of Australia as a liberal democracy is directly and inextricably tied to the fortunes of the main defender of liberal democracy. The US being run by a duffer who is utterly owned by the US's (and Australia's) main rivals is of vital interest. Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 10 April 2022 9:31:28 AM
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oh oh this can't be good.
http://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/04/08/erased-hunter-biden-laptop-material-to-be-released-soon-n1588110?utm_source=pjmedia&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&bcid=c656400946da53cd886ca50d173f1f18564ef7a5ea28b59ac629c4bf49e8541d&recip=29170474 The stuff that Hunter left on the laptop was incriminating enough. Imagine how bad the stuff he deleted must be. Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 10 April 2022 10:26:41 AM
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One thing is undeniable - Trump was headline news
day in and day out. Good, bad, and all too often ugly. Here's a few thoughts to mark his departure from the highest office in the land. ( There's still the possibility that Trump will be getting a visit from legal authorities and the police before too long). 1) Why is Trump unable to be hanged for treason? Fake noose. ___________________________________________________________________ 2) Donald Trump was doing all he could to raise the living standards of ordinary Americans. Especially ex-porn-stars. ________________________________________________________ 3) Why can't Trump stay in the White House anymore? Because it's for Biden! __________________________________________________________________ 4) Why are Trump's ties so long? Because they go all the way to Russia. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 10 April 2022 12:42:51 PM
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Porn Star Stormy Daniels Must Pay Trump $300,000.
(https://www.ibtimes.com/porn-star-stormy-daniels-must-pay-trump-300000-after-losing-defamation-appeal-3447107) Trump is so bad-arse that the hookers pay him. Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 10 April 2022 5:57:36 PM
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Even Fairfax last week platformed the rebooting of the Biden Jnr. laptop conspiracy, drawing upon a (Murdoch) NY Post report and also the nativist finance blog Zero Hedge (also allegedly inspired the Macrobusiness blog locally); ZH editorial is basically Putin - Trump good vs. Obama - Merkel/EU - Biden bad.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/hunter-biden-s-laptop-scandal-gets-rebooted-ahead-of-mid-terms-20220401-p5a9z0.html Like the Putin-Xi 'arc of autocracy' statements made by Morrison were also promoted by the Murdoch's WSJ and the NYT.... without any evidence. This after Fox News (still) persists in platforming Putin to then claim Biden-Democrats weak, to support GOP (and indirectly Trump), for the midterm elections later this year; some shameless unbalanced reporting from oligopoly media. Murdoch, Kochs, GOP et al. are desperate to turn the 'Anglosphere' into a permanent radical right nativist libertarian nirvana, supported by authoritarianism. Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 11 April 2022 7:00:19 PM
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Dear mhaze,
Lordy, lordy mate you are a tool. For you to claim: "The US being run by a duffer who is utterly owned by the US's (and Australia's) main rivals is of vital interest." is just so much projecting of the Trump era it is astounding. Trump and his campaign team were so thoroughly entwined with Putin and Russian interests yet you have defended him at every turn. Everything you have raised about Biden is such small potatoes compared to what Trump and his cohort got up to. And look what you have been reduced to, getting a cackle out of Trump's whoring. Your fawning of such a disgusting individual is just so indicative of a cultish follower that even you must feel some discomfort on occasion. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 11 April 2022 8:20:42 PM
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Andras Smith said- "Murdoch, Kochs, GOP et al. are desperate to turn the 'Anglosphere' into a permanent radical right nativist libertarian nirvana, supported by authoritarianism."
Answer- Murdoch is probably much more Traditionalist than others such as most of big tech. In fact the petrol companies seem more Traditionalist than big tech. If they were really Libertarian rather than Traditionalist Andras Smith and the Socialists probably wouldn't complain so much about them. As if the socialists want to preserve the Traditional Anglosphere. If Nativism is Traditionalism then we need more- anything else is a form of social engineering and genocide- even if it's self genocide- which it's not. I guess not everyone gets along with their own families- probably because their parents had to work so hard to support their growth- and so they've become socio-pathetic- nihilistic- negative spiral. Hopefully the Anglosphere stops blaming their parents and grandparents for the worlds problems and stands up for their own cultural interest- ironically this will probably also save other cultures too Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 11 April 2022 9:40:47 PM
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CM: You have unwittingly revealed a dark side of contemporary Anglosphere WASP culture, nativism and exceptionalism by citing 'traditionalism'; now couched within a Eurasian culture emerging in Australia, UK, US and Europe.
It's a core tenet, not only of Putin stooge &/or ideologue Dugin, but US Tanton Network promoting the alt right e.g. informing Fox News, GOP, Brexit, Trump etc. and including Steve Bannon, Dominic Cummings, Orban and Le Pen; also includes antipathy towards China e.g. Dugin's demand that it be 'dismantled'. Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 11 April 2022 11:18:45 PM
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Andras Smith said- "CM: You have unwittingly revealed a dark side of contemporary Anglosphere WASP culture, nativism and exceptionalism by citing 'traditionalism'... China ... Dugin...dismantled.. Tanton Network.. fascist"
Answer- I haven't heard a good definition of fascism- even Evola doesn't seem to define it well- the fasci is everywhere in law- axe and sticks- the fasci represents solidarity- whatever that means. I don't think that traditionalism (or nativism if preferred) is necessarily unique to the Anglosphere or WASP culture. I suppose Andras Smith is of the opinion that China should be supported- not that my opinion matters- but I disagree. I don't believe that a country like China of one billion people is stable to start with- especially given the structure of China- it threatens the countries surrounding it- I can't see any solution to the China problem but division. That's not to say that I'd agree with everything that Dugin has to say about China either but we should perhaps listen to what he's got to say. Anyway I'm not sure that Dugin can be considered Anglo. I'm probably more a supporter of Deneen than Dugin- Deneen also questions the Liberal order- but he doesn't define it as illiberalism- but these labels are relative. This seems interesting- skimmed it- http://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2015/john-tantons-network Wasn't the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) (bit of a misnomer) boss Morris Dees accused of the same racist behavior that he accused others- anyway everyone is prejudiced- it's seemingly necessary for survival. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Dees For those interested- This article from the seemingly communist Stanford University that pumps graduates into "big tech" talks about Dugin and his theories- I'd prefer to read about Dugin from Dugin myself. Author- John B. Dunlop seems to have views about Solzhenitsyn- not sure whether for or against. http://tec.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/aleksandr-dugins-foundations-geopolitics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin Dugin has been compared to Rasputin (perhaps a crypto-communist)- I suspect that they have very different politics. Possibly Andras Smith is working as a foreign agent- not sure why he wants to tear down Anglosphere society otherwise. Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 5:13:10 AM
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"Trump and his campaign team were so thoroughly entwined with Putin and Russian interests yet you have defended him at every turn."
That's quite the assertion. If only there was a brass razoo of evidence to support it. You know, like a coupla hundred gigabits of emails, documents, pictures and videos on, say, a laptop which proved the point. But alas no such thing exists as regards Trump. Biden on the other hand.... Of course the lack of evidence didn't stop the usual suspects conducting a 2 year $32 million investigation into the Trump collusion....which found no evidence. But the usual dills don't need evidence to 'know' its true, while at the same time 'knowing' that all the evidence detrimental to Biden should be ignored because of ....[insert your favourite reason]. Reasons like those espoused by Andras Smith. It doesn't matter that the laptop is real. It doesn't matter that various government groups are looking into how badly the revelations in the laptop compromise the US. It doesn't matter that the information in the laptop shows the first family being compromised by the enemies of the US. No , for Andras all that matters is that the wrong people are reporting it. The path to the truth it's not. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 5:42:36 AM
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Mhaze,
I think SR's comments show how easy it is to impeach a president. The supposed Russian connection was investigated by the FBI and found to be baseless. The Democrats' basis for impeaching Trump was entirely based on that they didn't like him. Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 8:51:29 AM
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A question.
What Anglosphere? And where exactly is it? Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 11:48:27 AM
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I've come across something interesting about the
"Anglosphere." We're told that - "It has its roots in the Victorian heyday of the British Empire." "But could the "Anglosphere"- be an imagined community of the leading English-speaking nations - come into its own as a political and economic entity in a post-Brexit world?" A new book co-edited by the University of Huddersfield's Dr Andrew Mycock explores the possibilities and probes the problems: http://hud.ac.uk/news/2020/march-the-anglosphere-andrew-mycock-and-ben-wellings/ Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 12:07:14 PM
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Ooops:
Here's the link again: http://hud.ac.uk/news/2020/march/the-anglosphere-andrew-mycock-and-ben-wellings/ Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 12:09:56 PM
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The anglosphere is a concept that's been around for more than a few decades. The best discussion of it was by Robert Conquest in his book "Reflections on a Ravaged Century".
Basically the Anglosphere is a collection of English speaking peoples who, because they were all settled by the British, inherited the British attitudes toward liberty, liberalism, democracy and capitalism. To Conquest the main members were/are Britain, Australia, New Zealand, USA and Canada. Depending on how it develops, India might also be a member. "In his major work Reflections on a Ravaged Century, the historian Robert Conquest argued that the political arrangements of the west were all increasingly deficient, the EU included. The answer was “a more fruitful unity” between the Anglosphere nations. And, in a speech to the English-Speaking Union in New York in 1999, Margaret Thatcher endorsed Conquest’s vision, noting how such an alliance would “redefine the political landscape”. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 1:25:06 PM
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Oxford University Press's - "The Anglosphere -
Continuity, Disonance and Location," edited by Andrew Mycock and Ben Wellings "is the first detailed analysis of the Anglosphere, its history, and contemporary relevance." "It brings together leading international academic experts in a comprehensive multi-disciplinary study and considers the opportunities and challenges of developing the Anglosphere." Worth a read for those interested in the subject. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 1:48:21 PM
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CM: Don't be so paranoid, 'tearing down Anglosphere society' Anglosphere promoters from the GOP, Tories with Brexit etc. & the LNP platforming Anglo-Irish cohorts, are more than capable of doing it themselves.
Nice deflection or 'whataboutery', Dees of SPLC was 'complicit' in accusation of racism and actual sexual harassment, but it's not the point. Ignores decades of research SPLC has done (& others), including focus upon John Tanton 'the architect' or 'puppeteer'. It must be good analysis because the GOP demanded that SPLC be shut down & efforts to keep Tanton's papers closed (at Michigan University's Bentley Library where the request includes his liaisons with KKK types). These 'conservatives', really don't like others' exercising their freedom of ideas or speech? However, ignores John Tanton's long standing influence and architecture in Oz, UK and US (Canada too e.g. influence on Rebel News editorial); while masquerading as conservative but deeply white nativist and racist, with a strong authoritarian streak. Tanton has been discussed here, why? Because he was allegedly hosted by the head of the, cough cough, 'environmental NGO' Sustainable Population Australia in Canberra many years ago, and links to similar 'NGOs' in the UK also, while his USA network informed the Trump White House. On Dugin, from Liyanage at the CARR Centre for Analysis of the Radical Right: 'Dugin is on a crusade against liberal values to strengthen traditional collectives, such as racial and cultural identities'; seems to resonate with the GOP fringes and grifters, ditto here in Oz? Dunlop on Dugin in 2004, cited direct quotations from Dugin including '‘China, which represents a danger to Russia, “must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled”.' The latter contradicts LNP, NewsCorp etc., GOP and US media messaging on the supposed partnership and 'arc of autocracy' between Russia and China? Of course again it's not the point but to make Biden-Democrats appear weak before the midterm elections later in '22... However, same tactics, avoid mentioning Trump et al. as to what would Trump do if the President, throw Ukraine and the EU under a bus to appease Putin? Tough guys. Posted by Andras Smith, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 7:51:29 PM
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Would add some related news, from conservative historian and political analyst Anne Applebaum on Anglosphere related think tanks, including one in Hungary funded by the govt. of PM Orban, a mini Putin (linked to all the Koch think tanks):
'If you work for the Orban-funded Danube Institute, or are/were enjoying a fellowship there, your views on Viktor Orban and the Hungarian elections should be taken with a grain of salt and a raised eyebrow. Just saying.' Several Australians linked to the Liberal Party inc. a former PM, advisor, partner and a former ambassador have attended, presented or been a visiting fellow of the same Institute; after Applebaum's comments the former ambassador's profile disappeared very quickly.... On beating up Biden in media, according to National Memo (10 April '22) in 'Behind Smear Campaign Against Bidens, It Was Bannon And Rudy.. Three people heralded the effort to disseminate compromising emails, pictures, and videos from the laptop, as well as shocking allegations of child porn possession on Hunter Biden’s part: Rudy Giuliani, then-personal lawyer of former President Trump; Steve Bannon, who had been charged with fraud, was later pardoned by Trump, and more recently indicted for contempt of Congress; and Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese businessman.' Three credible sources and/or accusers; then again who cares if it's true, or not? Posted by Andras Smith, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 8:07:13 PM
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Andras Smith repeating himself doesn't make the point more right.
The Southern Poverty Law Centre SPLC appears to be an opportunistic organization that takes advantage of the fact that the groups that it targets don't have good legal tactics- partially because they don't trust lawyers- but do have funds to garnish. These are the sorts of tactics common to M&A it seems. Perhaps they need to come up with better ways of sequestering their assets as the big four tech companies seem to do as a matter of routine. Then they can stop SPLC's apparently self-righteous Holy War- and then I suspect they can go back to stealing lollies from babies and screwing assistants. Perhaps Steve Bannon being an ex-banker can help them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 14 April 2022 12:17:32 AM
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Don't ever let anyone tell you that nativist conservatives are paranoid about any scrutiny and SPLC; Steve Bannon?
Ironically and indirectly John Tanton was Steve Bannon's muse and the former's agitprop is still used by not just Fox News, Rebel News etc. but legacy media in the US, UK and locally; calling for refugee &/or immigration restrictions while claiming a 'great replacement' through population growth. 'John Tanton was the racist architect of the modern anti-immigrant movement. He created a network of organizations – the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) and NumbersUSA – that profoundly shaped the immigration debate in the U.S.' https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/john-tanton Guess which SPA Sustainable Population person, claiming to be 'left', hosted Tanton on an Oz visit who he described as 'conservative'? Posted by Andras Smith, Thursday, 14 April 2022 12:40:15 AM
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Andras Smith said- "'John Tanton was the racist architect of the modern anti-immigrant movement. He created a network of organizations – the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) and NumbersUSA – that profoundly shaped the immigration debate in the U.S.' https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/john-tanton"
Answer- Everyone's ideologically biased and prejudiced but it's apparently mostly the communists and socialists that sling the term at the opponents- as if they aren't prejudiced themselves. Mao's killing of 60 Million in China as an act of ideological cleansing surely qualifies as ideological prejudice- protecting ones own ethnicity and culture is just another bias. Some bias are more healthy than others. For example I wouldn't generally be against a people for protecting their own rights to their own cultural land. Communists on the other hand don't believe in rights to property- a thieving looting ideology- neither for individual ownership or linear or cultural. The problem with Communism is that they deserve the same independent of their contribution- the entitled citizen. The citizen in my view is entitled however to earn a living based on their own efforts with minimum legislative interference- I also have some views on land and how it should be passed from generation to generation within a culture and whether it can be used to secure finance. John Tanton may be a racist (or prejudiced) in a sense depending on what pedantic definition is used- given that everyone is prejudiced it seems extremely likely that he is prejudiced about something- but I don't think that means that he necessarily murdered anyone- and it doesn't mean that he is wrong Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 14 April 2022 11:08:19 AM
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I don't agree with Andras Smith or the academics which appear to have betrayed their own raison detre (reason for existence)- this implies that the universities need a broom- maybe open education is the right instrument- start producing internet manuals and lobbying for adoption of low cost nationally based internet certification. Universities exist to ensure that nations stay ahead of the knowledge curve.
Andras Smith talks about Traditionalists as being fringe- I think the opposite of woke socialist ideology as being essentially fringe. Andras Smith from memory said something about the Traditionalists as being paranoid about the media- Noam Chomsky (apparently a Hebrew Anarcho- Socialist) in Manufacturing Consent 1988 seems to have talked about what could be considered as Left Liberal Socialist paranoia about the media- he made some interesting points. Many believe that media power ideology has moved to the extreme communist side since the 1990's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky The thing is power plays are always happening on all sides. Bellum omnium contra omnes. Enemies in battle are constantly attacking each other often at the same time. They are both acting prejudically to each other. In this environment if you don't use the weapons your team dies. SPLC throws around the term hate- as if they are not hateful themselves. Andras Smith slings around the term racist- as if he is not bigoted himself. Everyone is biased- it's life preserving Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 14 April 2022 11:09:04 AM
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Hi Andras,
Just a little something to lighten things up: Question: What do you call it when CM and his colleagues, give their viewpoints - all at the same time? Answer: Mass-debating. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 14 April 2022 11:55:06 AM
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Foxy: :) CM: You have learnt the tactics of Murdoch media, GOP, the alt right and the related to John Tanton types who sometimes inhabit here; all you can do is complain, smear others etc. yet you have nothing constructive nor analysis to offer?
I don't think it's good for your head with your pathological aversion to analysis and expertise vs. preferred gut instincts and beliefs? Posted by Andras Smith, Thursday, 14 April 2022 8:51:27 PM
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Thanks to Andras Smith I've received what I consider to be at least two great compliments- 1. his consideration of my psychopathy and 2. my elevation to the greatness of Rupert Murdoch no less. Personally I can't claim such lofty heights- but it is satisfying to receive recognition. When people such as Andras Smith decry I have to feel my life has been validated. Thanks again. Bad Dog.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 16 April 2022 10:36:18 AM
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Hi Andras,
Well said. Kudos! Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 April 2022 10:41:50 AM
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Woke Marxists appear to "exist" in an "evil mirror universe".
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 16 April 2022 10:42:01 AM
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There's a whole variety of different mirrors out
there. Some are covered in kisses (Donald Trump's), while others are cracked (bad dog). Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 April 2022 10:49:09 AM
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With Joe Biden's approval rating near 40% and those of democrats generally, not far behind, the chances are good that the Republicans will in November gain control of both Congress and the Senate and be in a strong position to impeach Biden and block any new legislation he might attempt.
Given the fraudulent and partisan impeachments of Trump, there is a strong appetite for payback.