These values come from parents.
ttbn,
Good, you're getting close to see where the problems are & why a National Service is needed desperately !
That great & perfect society we're now was created by the parents of today's young people.
Young people deserve better than perpetuating their selfish parents' poor & regressive mentality.
Some young actually show an improved mentality in comparison to their parents.
Mark my words, there will be a National Service scheme before the present young become grandparents !

Individual,
>Only in your mind !
No, not only in my mind, but also in the minds of many others.
But if we are wrong, why are you merely contradicting me rather than explaining exactly why I am wrong and what the correct definition is?

>Ask people who care !
What do you think it means to care?

It looks very much to me like you're trying to impose your uncaring vision on the younger generation because of your unshakable delusion that it would solve society's problems and somehow make them better people. Fortunately most of the population regard your ideas as lunatic fringe.

Society is far from perfect, but what you propose would be nothing more than an impediment to fixing it.

Aidan,
It's very clear to me that you've been reared by very selfish people surrounding you hence your inability to see decency in a few for the good of many. Pity really !

Hi Aidan,

This idea of a National Service is put forward without any attached information as to how it would operate. I did ask for detail, but Indy is vague on content.

My granddaughter selfishly wants to direct her own life, and not be dictated to by a government scheme or anyone else. She did ask me; "What would I be doing?" In reality I can't say, Indy has never provided detail. Flippantly I said "I don't know, breaking rocks."

Aidan, how would you have answered that question, given your granddaughter is by now incensed with the whole idea.

Individual,
It may be clear to you that pink elephants are getting in the way of everyone else seeing what you regard as obvious, but to the rest of us there's a more rational explanation.

If it's clear to you that I was reared by very selfish people, that is because you are deluded - and I rather resent the aspersions that you're casting on my parents!

And while your writing clarity leaves a lot to be desired, I'm pretty sure my "inability to see decency in a few for the good of many" is also a product of your imagination.

Attack is not the best defence, though I suppose your resorting to it is understandable when a proper logical defence would expose the flaws in your reasoning and assumptions.

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Paul,
Indy did mention weed control.

Paul,
Sorry, just checked and found you're right - it was Hasbeen, not Indy, who mentioned weed control.