Immigrants are taking jobs- the mere fact that immigrants are given jobs in Australia is evidence of this- however they want to massage it- powerful forces are involved- like the previous tobacco industry propaganda. I suppose Foxy favours this type of propaganda- she sees her survival as based on her world view- the thing is I see my survival as based on my world view- what makes her world view superior to mine- Immigrant Superiority as opposed to White British Superiority.

Immigrant Advocates argue that they are creating a bigger pie not taking market share from British Australian's- the anecdotal evidence on the ground says otherwise- immigrants tend to choose soft targets and take over these industries- while the powerful run interference operations- and the Equal Opportunity Commission penalizes objectors. These Immigration Insurgents appear to be opportunistic looters.

Foxy seems to over-represent the role of immigrants in Australia because it's in her interest to do so.

If you look underneath Foxy's propaganda you can often see cracks despite the impressive array of foreign and business opposing forces seeking to annex our inheritance. I include the nihilistic socialists and woke as among these foreign forces- as they appear to have turned traitor against there own culture, families, wisdom.

It's important to remember that there will always be those that seek to take what's your's rather than create for themselves. Perhaps Foxy should return to Lithuania and see if she can recreate the country of her ancestors- perhaps she will find that many in Australia would be generous enough to help- as many in Australia have helped those in the past.

British people came to this most remote continent and forged it out of aridness- few have an understanding of the sacrifice required to achieve civilization here- our systems were used to reduce suffering worldwide.

Foxy's own words indicate immigrant invasion of Australia

I notice that Foxy mentioned the country was founded as a convict colony.
She is not up to date in that it was founded as secret colony to beat
the French to claiming "New Holland" as it was known.
It appears that convicts were a small minority in the first fleet.

Bazz- I think Foxy is trying to tarnish British Australian's as criminals to justify their punishment.

Bazz, for the majority of convicts, their only crime was the one of being "poor". Of course they had been subjected to British justice and sent to the new colony. We still apply British justice to the poor today, we don't have a far off colony to transport them to, so we just victimise and stigmatise them, and lock em up. The same thing in a modern way.

Dear Paul,

Stating things historically does not equate with
"tarnishing" anyone. Australian history is clear
only some are blind to it or prefer the anachronisms.
It used to be that having a convict ancestor was a
shameful thing. Today - its a badge of honour.

Why would I want to go back to Lithuania? Perhaps CM
should return to the UK (if he can get a visa that is).
And line up at the airport with other foreign nationals.
He may also see just how "British" the country really
is. It would be a good education for him.

In any case - trying to define national identity is not
something that can be found in one place or we can
collectively reach. It is something that unfolds over
time and evolves through generations. It is also
something that is often contested and evokes a sense
of belonging individually.

Different groups have different senses of national identity.
It means different things to different people, so it is a
very slippery topic tp in down. It's very much a
generalisation of a particular moment.

As soon as you start talking about a distinctive national
identity or character you begin to exclude and you define those
who are "in" and those twho are " out" and that is a
problem.

The latest YouGov poll in July 2020 found that 62% of
Australians support replacing the monarch with an Australian
Head of State.

As I stated previously it is the Australian people who will
collectively, define this nation's destiny. We must be
leaders, not followers, egalitarian not elitist. Victors
not victims. And that is not "propaganda." That is the
essence of an egalitarian meritocracy.

See you on another discussion.

Hi Foxy,

I posted something on the 'Aboriginal Health' thread you may find interesting. It was quickly swamped by CM with I don't know what, as I don't read the pontification of the Kudos Kid. Life is too short for his what ever it is.