http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzfJGC1_yPo&t=67s

The link is to a new documentary about the battle to combat the Andrew's governments attempt to subvert democracy using the Chinese virus as an excuse.

Unfortunately, the people who should watch it, won't.

These type of summaries help to crystallise trends that develop over weeks and months. This one shows how liberties are anxiously surrendered by a frightened populace...a people frightened for no good reason but manipulated by an alliance between authoritarian government and media.

Liberties were surrendered in the futile pursuit of so-called covid-zero. Yet when it became clear to even the most clueless of observers that covid-zero was and always had been a mirage, the liberties remained surrendered. Whatismore, the authoritarian government and their media cheer-squad pivoted virtually overnight to memory-hole the covid-zero hype while continuing to suppress any dissent.

As a student of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, it has always fascinated me as to how relatively easily populations could be led into , or even anxious run toward, slavery and serfdom. I wondered what was special about those peoples that they were so easily deceived and subjugated.

But after witnessing the hysteria and anxious surrender of liberties that occurred all over Australia but especially in Victoria, it is clear that a population sufficiently frightened by misinformation will always seek to trade freedom for safety....end end up with neither.

Gee, for a fleeting moment I thought it meant Democracy on the Brink of becoming reality !

I think that democracy is currently over the brink. Democracy could still be recoverable if Australians were not still saying things like, 'Yeah, I know things are bad, but we are still better of than other countries', and, 'Australia is still the best country in the world'. That BS is just evidence that Australians have their heads stuck up their bums.

Australia is no better than any other country in the Anglosphere. Australians have proved that the 'bronzed Anzac, irreverent, anti-authority spirit' no longer exists. We are pooing ourselves over the climate change scam and the Covid-induced authoritarianism of politicians and unelected bureaucrats and judges.

The few people with the courage to kick against the 'new order' are branded as undesirables by the 80% gutless, who are now dobbers, copper's narks, and slaves to the political class that is supposed to serve us, not rule us.

No, we are over the brink, not on it, and the bottom is coming up at us fast.

Well, nobody wished for COVID, nobody wants it, but one good thing seems to have come out of it: it started cracking the federation called "Commonwealth of Australia", reminding people that when push comes to shove, their state/territory is on its own.

Hopefully if this process continues and states/territories become fully independent, then this will allow healthy competition between the states over both safety and freedom, where people will vote with their feet to live in the place that best fits their aspirations. It seems that Andrews will find himself ruling over a concrete desert.

this will allow healthy competition between the states over both safety and freedom, where people will vote with their feet to live in the place that best fits their aspirations.
Yuyutsu,
Europe had that & then the countries gave in to the Woke ! The USA is still fighting the Woke !
Here, the Woke are already working on the destruction of this Nation !

Dear Individual,

I cannot properly respond to your reply because I have no idea what you mean by the word 'Woke'.

Regardless, I can't see how a nation can be destroyed any more than a wraith can, since that is a fictive creature, an element of propaganda that never existed in reality to begin with.

Yuyutsu,
The Woke are a perverted & over-mollycoddling parented crowd who think everyone else owes them a living & whatever it happens to be they claim they'd be better at it.
They're oxygen thieving anarchists who despise the rewards others get for their efforts & so they're hell-bent on destroying society that works.
Pontificating on others' past wrongs they now work on the principle of more wrongs making things right !

Dear Individual,

Oh dear, Oh dear, this sounds so awful.

Fortunately I never met anyone who could answer that description.

At least in Australia, despite the high case numbers, there is plenty of oxygen for all patients, no need to steal it whatsoever.

Take care.

It's interesting to consider the main problem with COVID in Melbourne came from super-spreader events like the illegal (and sometimes violent) rallies endorsed and promoted by biassed activists like Topher Field himself.

His former campaigns against the Murray-Darling and his non-factual arguments against global warming fizzled out but he has found a new "cause".

You've watched the "documentary" so now you can go buy the T-Shirts and other merchandise he will soon be selling on his web site.

This is like the annual "they" are trying to ban Christmas/Easter ravings we see from those terminally addicted to persecution and martyrdom and waiting for the next "drop" from Q.

If you disagree with Andrews or any other elected representative you can easily and freely vote them out at the next election. As I recall that's what Democracy is.

Mhaze

ignoratio elenchi:

The video you posted is a fraud in that it’s main aim is in support of anti vaccination.
It sets out to gain sympathy for the persecuted lock down protesters and concludes with support for anti vaccers. (ignoratio elenchi).
Well that’s an argument I’m not a sucker for.

The lock down was a direct cause of much pain: For those people I have sympathy.
The ant vaccers are a totally different group that don’t have the broader sympathy.

What point specifically are you making here!

Dan

Yuyutsu,

Being "woke" means being aware, knowing what's going on
in the community (related to racism and social injustice).
It comes from Harlem in the US "If you're woke
you dig it." In other words you understand the problems
that your community is facing. You "awake" to what's
going on around you. It deals with the problems of
racism and social injustice.

And yes it is quite dreadful - but not in the way that
individual has described.

I choose not to look at the video, as usual. Given DD's description of it, I made the right choice. I hate all that red text exhorting me to read what just backs up the poster's opinion. I either agree with a post or I don't. In this case I agree with mhaze, while thinking the situation is even worse than he says. We are over the brink. I might be wrong, but I think that we are probably at the point where populations who lost democracy for good were at when they still had the same naive ideas that are often posted here.

It deals with the problems of racism and social injustice.
Foxy,
It doesn't deal with the problems, it exacerbates them via that insidious agenda of "getting back at the West" be it right or wrong but mainly wrong !

individual,

Have you ever lived in the United States?

Yuyutsu,

'Woke' is the misuse of a normal word by the American Left to give the impression that they are more 'awake' to certain societal issues that the rest of us are.

You know that the manipulation of language, the change of meanings of words, is one of the Marxists' chief weapons. The manipulation of language is made easy for them, given their barely literate audiences who can't think for themselves.

Have you ever lived in the United States?
Foxy,
by that do you mean the country that puts up statues for criminals & criminally incompetent politicians & where the criminals accuse those who want to better the situation as criminal ?
The answer is no, why would I ?

'Wokeness' has been described as a virus, escaping from a "post modern laboratory", and mutating into forms against which there is no vaccination; "it took hold on our university campuses and is now spreading out of control in the community".

As with the Covid virus, no child is now too young to be infected by 'wokeness'.

"Underlying wokeness is a dangerous, utopian ideology that has its roots in Marxism and is hellbent on destroying the institutions of liberal democracy, Christianity and the family". (Nick Cater).

For some people, being 'woke' is a status symbol - membership of a group of 'educated' people who see the world in clearer terms than others do. It also replaces religion for some, leaving the non-woke as sinners. In reality it is a pernicious ideology that must be opposed.

Yuyutsu,

I'll repeat what I wrote on another discussion:

"Watch your thoughts for they become words.
Watch your words for they become actions.
Watch your actions for they become habits.
Watch your habits for they become character."

Wise words from Margaret Thatcher.

She also added:

"There is little hope for democracy if the hearts
of men and women in democratic societies cannot be
touched by a call to something greater than
themselves."

And finally -

"The whole problem with the world is that
fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves -
and wise people so full of doubts."
(Bertrand Russell).

individual,

Had you lived in the US you might then better
understand the context of the word "woke," and
how and why it is being used.

rache asserts: "It's interesting to consider the main problem with COVID in Melbourne came from super-spreader events"

Well of course, there's no evidence for that. But it is interesting that the authorities can still rely on a loyal cohort of 'thinkers' who will fall for whatever bullsh!t they deliver up. One of the subjects explored in the doco was the Anzac Day shut-down where the actual commemoration was curtailed because of the virus (according to the authorities) while 80000 were allowed to pack the MCG for a footy game. I suspect the governments flying-moneys will find that reasonable.

I find it endlessly fascinating that people like rache will reject, or not even consider, data on the basis that they don't like the messenger. Its the path to ignorance, but then again some don't need a path having already arrived at the destination.

rache writes " you can easily and freely vote them out at the next election".

Well for those who can't be bothered to watch or scan the doco that was the point. It was a summary of why those concerned for the survival of democracy in places like Dan-istan need to vote them out.
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Similarly,
Diver Dan demonstrates that he (?) prefers to assume rather than find by asserting the doco is really an anti-vaccination treatise.

It's not. It is anti-mandate and an explanation of how the government sought to 'other' those who opposed its directives. The authorities sought to equate those opposed to authoritarianism with those opposed to the vaccination. But it was never true. I'm fully vaccinated but opposed to coercion. Still the authorities will be thrilled that there are plenty of dills who fell for its propaganda.

DD seeks to cloak his ignorance in an obscure Latin phrase which apparently provides a veneer of scholarship. Well try this ....Timendi causa est nescire.(Cicero)

Democracy only survives when the 'demos' actively want it to survive. In those places where democracy fell other than by external conquest, it wasn't because a section of society overthrew it, but because the people ceased to defend it. It wasn't killed, it was allowed to perish.

When people are fed a constant stream of fear and are convinced that only the elite can save them from whatever terrifies them, they become open to giving up their liberties. What happened in Victoria (but to a lesser extent in the rest of the country) was to show just how little the majority were concerned for their liberties, let alone fighting for those liberties. They were surrendered willingly, even anxiously.

Its not just happening here. The US is currently is the midst of a battle to forever make elections effectively irrelevant as the elite seek to make rules that legalise electoral cheating. Again democracy is on the brink in the place which is ultimately the only guarantor of democracy world-wide.

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The documentary spends some time looking at a pregnant mother in her pyjamas, hand-cuffed and arrested because she merely advocated for a protest against the mandates and lockdowns. I wonder how anyone thinks that's acceptable.

It also provides coverage of an elderly women thrown to the ground by police and peppered sprayed whilst prone. She had approached the police for help after the protest she attended became unruly. I wonder how anyone thinks that's acceptable.

Foxy,

Language changes over time. Gay used to mean happy.

Today "woke" means being hyper-aware of the latest fad and being abusive of and excluding everyone that doesn't agree with you.

or "Woke" adj informal

A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything other than their own behaviour.

Ignorance is the cause of fear.

So spoke Lucius Annaeus Seneca.

We are scared of what we don't know. When we are only
given a few pieces of information we ten to fill in the
rest of the details by ourselves. The way to deal with
fear is to face it. Garner as much information as you
can, listen in this case to medical experts and
take preventive measures which help.

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Yuyutsu,

Here's more on the meaning of the word "woke."

http://inews.co.uk/news/uk/woke-what-mean-meaning-origins-term-definition-culture-387962

'Woke' is a derisive term referring to those who have fully fallen for current left-wing policies, without really understanding the policy. They are people who accept without demur things like the whole 'trans' mania, who think that 'women' can have penises, that 'men' can give birth, that there are 40 or so genders.

They are people who fell for the a-historic Critical Race Theory. They are people who fell for and utterly believed the Russiagate hoax. They are people who buy the whole pronoun insanity.

In the end, they are people who accept with much thought and certainly no question, anything that the left leadership feds them. They are people who think they are smarter and more learned than the 'unwoke' while the opposite is usually true.

They are the type of people who, for example, are utterly opposed to a republic with an elected president but, once their gurus change direction, are utterly in favour of an elected president.

The woke are also highly self-righteous. They are the people who thought that marriage was something between a man and women when their gurus told them so, and self-righteously wanted to protect the 'rights' of the homosexual community when their gurus changed their mind.

The 'woke' are both funny and dangerous.

The link I gave to Yuyutsu gives the origins of the
term "woke" and how the meaning has changed. We're told
that the term was officially added into the dictionary in
2017 and it means to be awake to sensitive social issues
such as racism.

We're also told that the term is at the centre of many of
the fiercest political and cultural debates at the moment.

Some people say being woke is a sign of awareness to social
issues, others whip out the term as an insult - as we can
see on this form.

The link gives not only its meaning but also its origins
and when did the Black Lives Matter movement use it as
well as explaining why do some people dislike the term.

"It's become a common term of derision among some who
oppose the movements its associated with or believe the
issues are exaggerated. And it is somehow used to mock
or infantile supporters of those movements."

All very normal activities on discussions in this forum.
I suspect that for some people language was developed
because of their deep need to complain.

how and why it is being used.
Foxy,
I can see better from here than you from over there what's playing out !
Seeing & understanding what you see are two totally different things !

individual,

I totally agree and as I've said
before - one needs a bigger lens to see
the full picture.
(smile).

Being WOKE you are at liberty to destroy anything that has and does mean "I feel opressed by it". Hence the burning down of Police Stations and destroying police cars and the call to defund police. Foxys definition is typical of Left interpretations of a Marxist World views.

http://www.israelunwired.com/the-philosophy-behind-the-woke-movement/

IT IS THE NEW MARXIST RELIGION
There is a new religion. It is moving like a tidal wave through every facet of western culture, shaping and redefining society as it goes. This religion masquerades under the guise of compassion and justice, but underneath is an evil ideology that is incompatible with western values and incongruent with the Christian worldview.

"There are many names for what we currently find ourselves in; wokeness, political correctness, and cancel culture are some of them, but these only encapsulate a portion of the phenomenon. Cultural Marxism, neo-marxism, social justice, identity politics, and Critical Theory are broader descriptors. We would like to use a term that adequately captures the religiosity of the movement: wokeism.

Wokeism is a religion. Although it has not been organized into any formal religious structure, it has all the functions of religious doctrine. It has a unique epistemology (theory of knowledge), an evaluation of the human condition, and a redemption narrative."

http://www.convergemedia.org/wokeism-the-new-religion-of-the-west/

The link I gave on the meaning of woke, what it means,
its origins, and how it has changed was taken from
"inews.co.uk." which is a British national morning
paper published in London. Here's a link about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_(newspaper)

And here is the original link about woke:

http://inews.co.uk/news/uk/woke-what-mean-meaning-origins-term-definition-culture-387962

As you can see -"it's been a common term of derision among
some who oppose the movements its associated with..."
They also choose to try to whip out insulting terms
against people they see as their enemies.

Sad really. Especially coming from self proclaimed religious
people.

Bill Maher is a liberal (in the US sense, not the Australian sense) who would have been considered woke in the days before 'the woke' went crazy. The sort of person even Foxy would struggle to find a reason to pretend to ignore.

http://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-maher-aoc-wokeness-ocasio-cortez-real-time

Maher considers woke to be "a joke because it makes you think of people who wake up offended and take orders from Twitter. And their oversensitivity has grown tiresome,"

Also...."the term "woke" went from being a "rallying cry to a pejorative." It seems some haven't caught up with that change.

From her own words Foxy demonstrates she is a 5th columinist Marxiist Plant on this Forum, to challenge destroy Western democrasy Culture and values. That is why she does not give allegiance to core values of the nuclear family.

Mhaze.

I’m in favour of right wing authoritarianism. I’m a supporter of Donald Trump.

I have no idea what the ideological standing of the group of protesters were; but it didn’t go unnoticed the illegal protests in the US under Trump, and the major damage to the Global standing of the US they caused.

I’d like to see all protest banned. I’m also a believer in the justice of a bullet.
There is no meaningful protest where there is no bloodshed; an historical truth!

Dan

Well DD, I really hope that was a truly moronic attempt at humour.

Otherwise....seek help.

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NSW has just received a massive delivery of Rapid Antigen Tests. Despite a lack of tests available for people with serious health problems and the elderly, all of the tests are going for use by NSW public servants, your true masters.

Learn your place, serfs.

Dear Individual, Foxy, Ttbn, Shadowminister, Mhaze and Josephus,

English already has the largest vocabulary, more than any other language.

Being my second language and after investing that much to learn it, I choose to stick with its good old vocabulary rather than confuse myself with new and controversial words, which even you guys do not seem to agree on.

Thus as far as I am concerned, the only meaning of 'woke' is the past tense of 'wake'.

I may reconsider this, but only once I know perfectly all the established English words, about 600,000 of them. Do you?

Thus as far as I am concerned, the only meaning of 'woke' is the past tense of 'wake'.
Yuyutsu,
I agree but you'll need to ask the 'Woke" why they call it that. I'm fairly certain that no blue collar worker had any input into dreaming up the term ! Dreaming up such terms is the domain of senseless intellectuals i.e. parasitic Anarchists with nothing better to do.

Josephus,

You don't know a woman until you have met her
in court.

You only meet the worst women in Court.

Josephus,

I guess you'd know.

The term "woke" has been appropriated by the far right as an insult, just like "the elites" and "socialist" and are now the debating equivalent of Godwin's Law. You can hear them used every night on Sky After Dark as they attack the left but never seem to defend the right.
When they toss those words around it shows they have no real argument beyond name-calling.

It's ironic that many high profile commentators are themselves "elites" and happy for the taxpayer to bail them out when things go bad and by being "non-woke" implies they support social injustice and racism.

mhaze I don't need to rely on the misinterpretation of data to form an opinion and plain old common sense will usually do.
If I stand with one foot in a bucket of hot coals and the other on a block of ice, on average I'm quite comfortable. I work toward a conclusion rather than state an opinion and look backwards for ways to justify it. You can easily jump onto the Dictator Dan Bandwagon if that makes you feel powerful and informed but we have an inept and corrupt government in NSW and other states have problems too.

Otherwise maybe I should await the day when we can again be "free" to smoke in public buildings and on public transport and drive at any speed we like. After all, more people die of cancer and the flu every year than in motor accidents and I'm sure I can still find "experts" who insist that smoking is harmless.

This pandemic been about overall public health and not some trivial matter and it's now obvious that a healthy economy depends on a healthy society and provocateurs and public agitators offer nothing except division and unrest. Some poor possums don't like to wear masks yet they call leftists "snowflakes".
It's also a fact that social media is now a tool to get people to vote against their own best interests.

Rache,

Woke has gone a long way from simply meaning "aware of social injustice" with the advent of racism in the form of extreme identity politics to meaning "virtue signalling and intolerant of other opinions."

Today woke is a joke.

To quote Martin Luther King

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

Which is how many people see wokeness.

rache,

"I work toward a conclusion rather than state an opinion and look backwards for ways to justify it."

That's the idealised way you see yourself.

Yet you rejected the evidence in the doco purely because of who was presenting it.

That's the real you.

We're all guilty on this forum of rejecting
information and data by who's presenting it.
And that's fair enough. One would hope that we
should strive for and lean towards information
that can be verified, is evidence based, hopefully
had been peer-reviewed,
fact-checked, and preferably is not biased.
And, it does happen that we succeed. Yet despite
this - people will still reject the information
if it does not agree with their world view or
ideologies.

Par for the course on public forums - as we all well
know - or should know.

BTW rache - you have the foresight to understand
that none of us are able to change the opinions,
beliefs, and behaviours of others

Take no notice of the baying of the
hounds at your heels and simply walk away from
the insults. We need to simply preserve our sanity
and respect our own opinions and be wise enough to
realize that we can not change the unhealthy beliefs, and
behaviours of certain people. Repeating one's journey when
it only leads to dead-ends is a waste of time and not
very productive.

Being WOKE means a rewrite of History that offends a woke person and the removal of all statues of persons that represent opression.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+woke+culture&docid=608031351998851229&mid=351ACF56FBC216484D1D351ACF56FBC216484D1D&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+woke+culture&&view=detail&mid=F5D79D938DA5752F0321F5D79D938DA5752F0321&rvsmid=351ACF56FBC216484D1D351ACF56FBC216484D1D&FORM=VDQVAP

To be WOKE might mean you are vegan and actively oppose anyone that eats or uses domestic animal products.

We are looking at World Views and there are many, it does not mean all are irrational, but it does mean one will stand out above the rest as having higher ideals.

The WOKE do not like aspirations to higher ideals as it offends the under chievers. That is why advanced Mathmatics is seen by the Woke as opressive. That white skin is considered by WOKE as racist opressive because they have achieved higher ideals. Even black skin is racist and betraying their race if they have ideas of high achievement. Everyone is supposed to be equal in a WOKE world.

Americans are abandoning the Democratic party and joining the Republican party instead, because Americans feel safer with the GOP. A new Gallup poll which was released on Monday which indicated that Americans are fleeing the Democrat Party in droves for the Republican Party.

The Gallup poll stated:
“[In] the first quarter, 49% of Americans identified as Democrats or leaned Democratic, compared with 40% who were Republicans or Republican leaners.
In the second quarter, Democratic affiliation stayed high, while Republican affiliation began to recover, increasing to 43%.
The third quarter saw a decline in Democratic identification and leaning, from 49% to 45%, as Biden’s ratings began to falter, while there was no meaningful change in Republican affiliation.
In the fourth quarter, party support flipped as Republicans made gains, from 44% to 47%, and Democratic affiliation fell from 45% to 42%.”

We need to simply preserve our sanity
Foxy,
Where do you think you went wrong ?

individual,

You ask where do I think I went wrong?

Probably by humouring people like you
in being too polite and tolerant.
But that's the way I was raised. It's a
cultural thing.

humouring
Foxy,
frustrating would be a appropriate word.