Paul
Got you beat too, has it?

In a war you give allegiance to your trained commander as he should have the wisdom of movement and strategy to achieve the greatest advance with the least casualties. You do not give allegiance to the untrained divers opinions of the company.

In life we give tassid allegiance to one idea, one principle - if you see it is not the best change to one you see as best

Issy, as anti-war as I am, I don't much care. Should we come under attack by the Penguin Army of Antarctica and have to wait for orders from the Queen of England, me thinks we're gonners!

Hi Paul,

Here's a link from Home Affairs which outlines
things quite clearly about the responsibilities of
Australian citizenship.

http://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/citizenship-subsite/Pages/Learn-about-being-an-Australian

1) Australian citizens have an obligation to obey the law.
2) Defend Australia should the need arise.
3) Vote in federal and state or territory elections and in
referenda.
4) Serve in jury duty if called to do so.

As far as an Oath of Allegiance for Australian Citizens is
concerned that has changed over time. In 1994 the Keating
Government removed reference to the Crown. There has been
no changes since.

Read the link I gave.

I don't think Paul1405 is anti-war- he's fighting all the time.

Paraphrasing Clausewitz- "the elements of war can even be seen in newborns"

Dear Paul,

My apologies. The link I gave earlier from Home Affairs
I typed in error. Here it is again:

http://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/citizenship-subsite/Pages/Learn-about-being-an-Australian.aspx

In the Australian Citizenship Pledge - you are making a public
commitment to Australia and accepting the responsibilities and
privileges of citizenship. You are pledging:

1) Your loyalty to Australia and its people.
2) That you will share Australia's democratic beliefs and
respect its rights and liberties.
3) To uphold and obey the laws of Australia that the MPs that
you elect make.

You don't become an Australian citizen until you have made your
pledge of Commitment to Australia.

There's more explanations at the link I gave.