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Reimmagine Australia adopting 60,000 year old culture.

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Note that I've specifically limited myself to Newtonian frames/world, once you go into general relativity then I really have a very limited understanding and intuitive feeling of energy. The math needed to understand energy in this setting is called tensor calculus/tensor analysis over manifolds, and I haven't a very good grounding in it. I find it difficult to relate to this math and develop natural intuitive feeling about the results of it. Whenever I do play with tensors, I'm just doing it mechanically by following the rules with very limited insight into its meaning/relevance to applications in real life.

*: work has a particular mathematically defined meaning in physics
Posted by thinkabit, Saturday, 8 January 2022 7:31:00 PM
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Foxy,
You’re a believer are you not?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 8 January 2022 10:12:25 PM
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thinkabit, I see you have dealt with the world of natural science. However how was your value system formed to rationalise by looking at things from outside or within physics? Is your mind part of natural physics or independant of it to formulate your conclusions? Are you controlled from within natural forces, or can you stand apart from what is controlling your values? Explain human character by natural science, does it have any link to the design of our environment?
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 9 January 2022 7:55:28 AM
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Is Mise,

You have to be more specific.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 9 January 2022 8:39:48 AM
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Dear Josephus,

The basis of my worldview and that of most of the scientific community is that there is no designer. The following tells how Darwin catered to believers in God and later regretted it.

From there is grandeur in this view of life - Charles Darwin quotation (age-of-the-sage.org)

Charles Darwin closed the last paragraph of the first edition, (publication date 24 November 1859), of his On the Origin of Species with this sentence:-

"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved."

It happened, however, that many persons felt that there was not enough 'grandeur' to 'the view of life' being offered by Charles Darwin in his On the Origin of Species such that Darwin it necessary to insert an additional "creationist" phrase in this closing sentence as it appears in subsequent editions from as early as January 1860:-

"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved."

In March, 1863, Darwin wrote about this inclusion of the three significant words ~ by the Creator ~ to his friend and scientific confidante Joseph Hooker:-

"I have long regretted that I truckled to public opinion & used Pentateuchal term of creation, by which I really meant “appeared” by some wholly unknown process. It is mere rubbish thinking, at present, of origin of life; one might as well think of origin of matter."
Posted by david f, Sunday, 9 January 2022 11:04:37 AM
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David, are your thoughts the natural results of the organic chemistry of our brain, or do you stand alof from your brain chemistry to make decisions of fact even about your brain's organic chemistry. Does immagination have chemistry or a function created by chemistry or is it merely involved in brain function?
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 9 January 2022 12:57:27 PM
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