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Reimmagine Australia adopting 60,000 year old culture.

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Dear Josephus,

Now trying to be vague. My goodness this is difficult for you isn't it. Lol.

Here is the quote again from the same book:

"In recording my admiration of the general character of the aborigines, no attempt is made to palliate what may appear to us to be objectionable customs common to savages in nearly every part of the globe ; but it may be truly said of them, that, with the exception of the low estimate they naturally place on life, their moral character and modesty—all things considered—compare favourably with those of the most highly cultivated communities of Europe. People seeing only the miserable remnants to be met with about the white man’s grog-shop may be inclined to doubt this; but if these doubters were to be brought into close communication with the aborigines away from the means of intoxication and were to listen to their guileless conversation, their humour and wit, and their expressions of honour and affection for one another, those who are disposed to look upon them as scarcely human would be compelled to admit that in general intelligence, common sense, integrity, and the absence of anything repulsive in their conduct, they are at least equal, if not superior, to the general run of white men."

Again how does this fit into the narrative you are trying to portray here? Do you accept what he has written or not?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 20 December 2021 3:29:58 PM
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First People, I wonder who the first people were?😃
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 20 December 2021 3:34:16 PM
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Yutsie: There is much merit in your suggestion, but I rather take the best from both cultures and avoid the worsts.

Please explain. Exactly what aspects of Aboriginal Culture would you like to adopt?

Foxy: Nobody is asking us to adopt Indigenous culture and get rid of our own.

Josephus: SBS and NITV is promoting the idea we should adopt aboriginal culture as our primary culture in Australia because it has survived foe 60,000 years unchanged.

Therefore SBS & NITV is. I guess at the request of Aboriginal People of Australia through "The Uluru Statement.”

Foxy: What is merely being asked is the recognition of our First People.

As I said before we’ve done that twice before &, apparently, it wasn’t good enough.

Foxy: and the truth telling of our full history.

Well Pascoe did that, & we all know how that went. After the initial “Woo Hoo” it was even rejected by Aboriginal people, except those that live by the “Redfern Code of Practice.”

Foxy: No, nothing has been done as was requested in their Uluru Statement from the Heart.

First, they asked for, Recognition They got it. Then they wanted us to say, Sorry. They got that. Now it’s a list of Requests. Fine they’ll get it. Next it will be something else, then something else then, ad infinitum. Where does it end. They are already given $6 billion a year, which siphoned off by the CEO of the various Aboriginal Organizations.

Anyway, this is a side track. The Question, or Statement was for White Australians to adopt a 60000 year old culture, Well, I’ve already supplied a detail of what that encompasses & you rejected it & went off on a tangent.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 20 December 2021 3:40:09 PM
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your idea of an aboriginal is they have to look like Truganini,
Paul1405,
So, what is your idea of an Aboriginal then ? Come to think of it, I'm an Aboriginal also, a caucasian one that is. So, I ask you this, what is your idea of an Australian Aboriginal then ?
Black, brown, brindle more white than caucasians, what ?
ABC/SBS shows glaringly whiter than my lilly-white butt ever was identifying as 'indigenous'. Is that in your opinion fair to real, proud Aborigines ? I don't think so when I listen to real Indigenous commenting on these pearly white fakes ! Are you one of them ? Judging by your lack of integrity I assume you are.
Posted by individual, Monday, 20 December 2021 5:28:37 PM
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SR, who would you consider a savage by their culture? One who kills and eats human flesh - a cannibal? Because every tribe that ate human flesh was considered a savage if they were living in primitive situations.

The young man from West Papua who lived with me his grandfather a tribal head was a canibal toll he accepted Christ as his saviour, and his family had a cultural change. The young man I speak of had two degrees after his name, intellect does not define a person as a savage. However, primitive culture defines if a person is a savage. I met some aboriginal elders in the NT whose bush wisdom was highly skilled.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 20 December 2021 5:29:16 PM
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Excerpts from Howards & Rudds Speeches in Parliament.

Howard. I Reflect on past mistreatment & the Stolen Generation.
Because the time has come, well and truly come, for all peoples of our great country, for all citizens of our great commonwealth, for all Australians - those who are indigenous and those who are not - to come together to reconcile and together build a new future for our nation.
The nation is demanding of its political leadership to take us forward.

Decency, human decency, universal human decency, demands that the nation now step forward to right an historical wrong. That is what we are doing in this place today.

It is time to reconcile. It is time to recognise the injustices of the past. It is time to say sorry. It is time to move forward together.
To the stolen generations, I say the following: as Prime Minister of Australia, I am sorry.

On behalf of the parliament of Australia, I am sorry.

I offer you this apology without qualification.

We apologise for the hurt, the pain and suffering that we, the parliament, have caused you by the laws that previous parliaments have enacted.

We apologise for the indignity, the degradation and the humiliation these laws embodied.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 20 December 2021 5:30:51 PM
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