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Dear Is Mise,

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You wrote :

« Banjo,
Nebulous, but you have Fojxy’s thanks.
What will happen if a State wishes to remain a monarchy? »
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Yes, Is Mise, I am aware from your previous posts that you have difficulty measuring the added value of a republic as something tangible and practical. Unfortunately, many of our compatriots have the same difficulty, including several of our friends here on OLO.

The added value of a republic is not evident to the uninitiated . It’s not something that is visible to the naked eye. It is immaterial and not easily comprehensible. It only manifests its effects when some particularly significant event occurs that is contrary to its constitution (supreme law) and triggers it into action.

Unfortunately, it will probably only be when that happens that the nebulosity that currently clouds your vision will dissipate and allow you to see just how important the added value of a republic is for the vitality of our democracy.

As somebody wisely said : “man does not live on bread alone”.
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As for your question : “What will happen if a State wishes to remain a monarchy?”, the answer is that a national referendum would need to be held on the proposal to establish Australia as a republic, and for it to succeed it must obtain a double majority – that is, if it achieves a majority of votes across Australia, including the territories, and a majority of votes in a majority of states. If it does not, it fails.

And as ttbn points out, the public mistrust of our politicians is such that they systematically oppose any suggestion of constitutional change.

There would need to be a major change in the public attitude if Australia were to become a republic.

I am confident that it will in the not too distant future.

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Issy, the ships chronometer was just as important an invention as the compass and sextant as an aid to navigation. With a chronometer one could determine longitude, very important on a log voyage. Today, GPS tracking supersedes them all.

Paul,
I am cognisant with those facts, but one steers by the compass.

Banjo,
But what happens if a State wishes to remain a monarchy, that is wants to opt out of the republic?

Dear Banjo,

I am certain that constitutional reform will happen
in the not too distant future as people begin to
better understand the reasons why this needs to be
done. Clear communication and explanation is
crucial because public resistance to constitutional reform
is a product of the fact that people are naturally reluctant
to change a system that they do not understand.

You've explained things to Is Mise and yet he still does
not comprehend what would happen in the case of a state
not wanting to be a republic.

Again - Thank You for elevating the tone of this discussion.
For having the patience and integrity to continue explaining
instead of attacking as is often the norm on this forum.
It is appreciated and people like yourself are the reason
I keep coming back.

Must Australia and Britannia be forever tied
Having the British monarch forever by our side?
Australia's a sovereign nation or so we like to think
It's hard to keep believing that When our constitution's
quite extinct.

It's time to rally round boys
Ditch the British royal
Have an Aussie as head of state
At least to us they're loyal!

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Dear Is Mise,

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You wrote :

« Banjo,
But what happens if a State wishes to remain a monarchy, that is wants to opt-out of the republic? »
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I think your question, Is Mise, is “can a state opt out of the federation/commonwealth ?” irrespective of whether the latter is a constitutional monarchy or a republic ?

In my opinion, yes, it can.

Would it want to do so ? I think that is highly unlikely because it would not be in its best interests to do so.

The creation of the Australian federation/commonwealth was a purely voluntary act on the part of the 6 colonies. They all chose to federate without being pressured to do so by any irresistible military, political, or economic necessity at the time.

Now, in the 21st century, the circumstances are vastly different. As I see it, in today’s world, there is considerable military, political and economic necessity for the six states to remain part of the federation/commonwealth.

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Dear Foxy,

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Thank you for your kind words and for your infallible support and encouragement.

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