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Dodge City Gun Laws In Australia

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Is Mise,

My apologies. I keep miss-typing the link.
One last attempt and then you're on your own:

http://guncontrolaustralia.org/erosion-of-gun-law-in-australia-timeline
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 11 September 2021 3:40:07 PM
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Many objects and systems hurt and destroy people in the community but the overall effect is positive. I believe that the right to own guns is overall positive. The Stanford prison project is informative.

Some perhaps believe that police have greater training and safety processes than the average gun owner and are somehow more responsible in the use of firearms. As Is Mise has said on a few occasions there are significant safety requirements at gun clubs- gun clubs have very little tolerance to irresponsible behavior- possibly even less tolerance than the police- people would never go out with an unsafe person. Also the people who would use the police and the forces armed capabilities for civil activities also may not be able to be trusted.

Liberals believe that everything should be part of the government as if they can be trusted- we need to bring the institutions responsibilities back into the community- not put the responsibility for everything on the government.

Locke Liberals seem to believe that people can't be trusted because they are naturally bad- this seems to be inconsistent with Locke's own view on the nature of people- "man in a state of nature"- Locke can't have it both ways.

It's been argued that the only way that the Russian people were able to depose the supposedly corrupt Tzars in favour of "equality" was by the invention of the Smith & Wesson revolver.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 11 September 2021 5:40:06 PM
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Foxy,
Thanks for the links but neither of them give one shred of evidence that gun laws are being eroded, both are big on rhetoric and speculation but offer no evidence at all.

The fact that strictly controlled hunting on some public land has been allowed is not an erosion of law at all, it has absolutely nothing to do with gun control laws or the NFA.
The lowering of the age at which young people may be taught firearms safety and have a shot ON A RANGE and under Licenced adult supervision also in no way weakens anything.
One would expect that GCAustralia and others would welcome firearms safety training for young people.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 11 September 2021 6:25:15 PM
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Is Mise,

Track the erosion of Australia's gun laws from
1996 to 2018 as given in my link on page 8.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 11 September 2021 8:23:22 PM
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Foxy,
There is absolutely no erosion of the gun laws in your link, only supposition and deceit.
Not one shred of evidence.
Your link to the Guardian is also flawed for the same reasons plus outright lying.
They say that the Adler shotgun was put in a lesser category but they fail to mention that it was moved because it was in the wrong category.
It’s moving brought it back to its proper place under the gun laws.
It is a lever action shotgun and such guns were not banned.
The Guardian, the Greens and GCA all bleat about the Adler but never mention the Winchester lever action shotguns, which are arguably better than the Adler and in the case of the M1894 Winchester shotguns faster than the Adler.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 11 September 2021 9:57:20 PM
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Issy its quiz time!

Talking of charities, answer the following question correctly and I'll make a substantial donation to your favourite charity 'MEDICAL EXPENSES FOR THOSE WHO SHOOT THEMSELVES'. on behalf of the Greens, of course.

A law-abiding citizen with a loaded gun, whom are they most likely to shoot?

(A) a burglar
(B) a stranger
(C) a family member
(D) THEMSELVES

If you don't know the answer I'll give it to you after your next post.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 12 September 2021 6:07:50 AM
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